Too early 2018-19 predictions

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Re: Too early 2018-19 predictions

Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » July 12th, 2018, 7:39 am

BirdsEyeView wrote:
Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:You're asking to raise the overall PPG by 12-18. Of course, a few points left so more like 10-15. It's not reasonable to believe your team is going to consistently score 12 more PPG.


You're assuming all other factors (aka scoring from other players) stay the same. However, they had players like Smithpeters graduate meaning someone has to make up the scoring difference.

It's not far fetched when you use logic.



Fine, I'm so confident that I'm right you all can put your money where your mouth is. I bet $100 to every person that accepts the bet that the Salukis will not average 82 points per game this season (up 12 PPG from last season's 70 PPG). We can put all of our money in escrow and either I get it at the end of the year or it's split between whoever accepts the bet if they somehow manage to average 82 PPG over 30+ games.
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Re: Too early 2018-19 predictions

Postby goramblers2011 » July 12th, 2018, 7:59 am

Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:
Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:You're asking to raise the overall PPG by 12-18. Of course, a few points left so more like 10-15. It's not reasonable to believe your team is going to consistently score 12 more PPG.


You're assuming all other factors (aka scoring from other players) stay the same. However, they had players like Smithpeters graduate meaning someone has to make up the scoring difference.

It's not far fetched when you use logic.



Fine, I'm so confident that I'm right you all can put your money where your mouth is. I bet $100 to every person that accepts the bet that the Salukis will not average 82 points per game this season (up 12 PPG from last season's 70 PPG). We can put all of our money in escrow and either I get it at the end of the year or it's split between whoever accepts the bet if they somehow manage to average 82 PPG over 30+ games.


Did you even read his post?

He is NOT saying they will score 12 more ppg. He is saying that other events are happening (e.g., Smithpeters, who averaged ~7 PPG is graduating) and these players will step up to fill the void.
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Re: Too early 2018-19 predictions

Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » July 12th, 2018, 8:13 am

1. I said in the OP that people left. READING is hard, I guess. Even with PPG leaving he asked 6 players to jump 18points. I'll even lower the challenge to 10 more PPG (80 PPG average). He still asking the rest to do a lot. Unrealistic. If he's so confident he will accept the challenge.

2. My challenge stands.
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Re: Too early 2018-19 predictions

Postby IWokeUpLikeThis » July 12th, 2018, 8:18 am

No one argued SIU will score 82 ppg. The implication was those 6 players would score 2-3 more ppg and then subtract what graduated. Common sense.
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Re: Too early 2018-19 predictions

Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » July 12th, 2018, 8:25 am

IWokeUpLikeThis wrote:No one argued SIU will score 82 ppg. The implication was those 6 players would score 2-3 more ppg and then subtract what graduated. Common sense.


18 - 8 is what...10? Looking at ESPN that's the only loss of points I see. AND, Bol is coming back and he's not even listed because he didn't play. Its not common sense once you actually look and see theyre not losing many points AND they have an extra player back.

My challenge stands.
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Re: Too early 2018-19 predictions

Postby BirdsEyeView » July 12th, 2018, 8:48 am

Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:
IWokeUpLikeThis wrote:No one argued SIU will score 82 ppg. The implication was those 6 players would score 2-3 more ppg and then subtract what graduated. Common sense.


18 - 8 is what...10? Looking at ESPN that's the only loss of points I see. AND, Bol is coming back and he's not even listed because he didn't play. Its not common sense once you actually look and see theyre not losing many points AND they have an extra player back.

My challenge stands.


Wow. Never said they would average 80 points per game. Here, I looked it up, something you didn't do or at least comprehend the math.

Jonathan Wiley (senior last year) - 5.8 ppg
Tyler Smithpeters (senior last year) - 7.7 ppg

Totals = 13.5 ppg lost to graduation

The team averaged 70 ppg last year

minus - 13.5 ppg
= 56.5 ppg returning

To get an extra 12-18 ppg as you assume per the earlier message that would jump them (using the mean of 15 ppg more) at 71.5 ppg.

Those players can easily make that up...

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Re: Too early 2018-19 predictions

Postby VUGrad1314 » July 18th, 2018, 4:17 am

Missouri State declared a winner of transfer season by Mid-Major Madness. Honestly, I think the entire conference could be considered winners. There's been a major inflow of transfer talent throughout the conference.

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2018/7/ ... th-alabama
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Re: Too early 2018-19 predictions

Postby BEARZ77 » July 18th, 2018, 6:19 am

VUGrad1314 wrote:Missouri State declared a winner of transfer season by Mid-Major Madness. Honestly, I think the entire conference could be considered winners. There's been a major inflow of transfer talent throughout the conference.

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2018/7/ ... th-alabama


It's nice to be recognized, but gee, you'd think a media service like that would be more accurate in it's info; both Ridder and Webster are eligible and probable starters this coming season. Ridder is going to be a very good player in this league probably sooner than later, and Webster will play alot if not start and is the type of long athletic guard Ford likes as a 6'4 pg. Hall who will rs this year is similar at 6'6, and DaSilva is an Obediah Church like athlete at about 6'7-6'8 , but with better offensive skills and both he and Hall have had two productive years at similar level competition as the MVC with South Florida and Nevada. Hard to predict a 1st year outcome, but the Bears are going to have a really good roster in 2019 , have two solid instate recruits committed already in 6'6 Ty Freeman and 6'4 Jamanta Black, and 3 more scholys to give. Ford and his staff have a vision, have shown they can recruit to it, now just have to prove they know how to use it.
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Re: Too early 2018-19 predictions

Postby VUGrad1314 » July 18th, 2018, 7:31 pm

Valpo checks in at #112 in the Top 144.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/16410

UNI was 129 (too low should be ranked higher)

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/16379

I am really surprised that Missouri State is not going to make the preseason top 144. (have to assume that the last 4 MVC slots are going to the Illinois schools) I guess they have reservations about the Bears because of the coaching change. That's the only reason I can think of. They're putting together a really talented team in Springfield.
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Re: Too early 2018-19 predictions

Postby BEARZ77 » July 18th, 2018, 7:55 pm

VUGrad1314 wrote:Valpo checks in at #112 in the Top 144.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/16410

UNI was 129 (too low should be ranked higher)

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/16379

I am really surprised that Missouri State is not going to make the preseason top 144. (have to assume that the last 4 MVC slots are going to the Illinois schools) I guess they have reservations about the Bears because of the coaching change. That's the only reason I can think of. They're putting together a really talented team in Springfield.


You can never predict that 1st transitional year under a new coach and with the amount of new players for MSU. I understand any low rankings we get for now. We may be solid at some point this year, but I think most of us are simply anxious to see progress and then really see the program move forward starting next year.
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