Which of these team would you be okay with joining the MVC?

[mvfcfan]

And actually as far as I'm aware the MVC was never in Chicago until 8 years ago. Indiana State gets a lot of students from Indianapolis and you know how we do it? It's called advertising aka billboards, recruiters, etc. It's not because we play in the same conference as IUPUI. What a joke. Some people on this board are clueless. They just regurgitate whatever the idea of the day is in the MVC because they think the MVC is so awesome. No one outside of our local communities gives a rip about the MVC. I know someone that was raised in Bloomington and went to ISU because they got a scholarship to go there, not because of ISU being in the Big Ten with IU. I have an ex from Gary that went there because they had the field she wanted to major in, not because of Valpo or Loyola being in the MVC. This argument of adding markets for students is just beyond dumb. If your schools want students then advertise and give people a reason to go there. It's really not that complicated.

[IllinoisState]

And actually as far as I'm aware the MVC was never in Chicago until 8 years ago. Indiana State gets a lot of students from Indianapolis and you know how we do it? It's called advertising aka billboards, recruiters, etc. It's not because we play in the same conference as IUPUI. What a joke. Some people on this board are clueless. They just regurgitate whatever the idea of the day is in the MVC because they think the MVC is so awesome. No one outside of our local communities gives a rip about the MVC. I know someone that was raised in Bloomington and went to ISU because they got a scholarship to go there, not because of ISU being in the Big Ten with IU. I have an ex from Gary that went there because they had the field she wanted to major in, not because of Valpo or Loyola being in the MVC. This argument of adding markets for students is just beyond dumb. If your schools want students then advertise and give people a reason to go there. It's really not that complicated.

I've seen Rhode Island billboards in/around Chicago before as well as some other outliers.

[Milanmiracle]

I’m in favor of the following 3 schools and one more… (tbd)

Murray State, UIC and Northern Kentucky. All bring something of value to the table, and offer the opportunity for long term sustainability.

[TheDrake]

And actually as far as I'm aware the MVC was never in Chicago until 8 years ago. Indiana State gets a lot of students from Indianapolis and you know how we do it? It's called advertising aka billboards, recruiters, etc. It's not because we play in the same conference as IUPUI. What a joke. Some people on this board are clueless. They just regurgitate whatever the idea of the day is in the MVC because they think the MVC is so awesome. No one outside of our local communities gives a rip about the MVC. I know someone that was raised in Bloomington and went to ISU because they got a scholarship to go there, not because of ISU being in the Big Ten with IU. I have an ex from Gary that went there because they had the field she wanted to major in, not because of Valpo or Loyola being in the MVC. This argument of adding markets for students is just beyond dumb. If your schools want students then advertise and give people a reason to go there. It's really not that complicated.

Indianapolis isn't really a great case for conference affiliation versus advertising. You're 90 minutes away.

[squirrel]

On that list, Murray and Arlington are the easiest yes.

I'm a hard no on UIC because of their actions toward Valley schools and fans, historically. They can rot as far as I'm concerned. Act like a preschool, you can continue to play in a preschool league.

Kansas City and Omaha have to show me more. A lot more.

[BCPanther]

And actually as far as I'm aware the MVC was never in Chicago until 8 years ago. Indiana State gets a lot of students from Indianapolis and you know how we do it? It's called advertising aka billboards, recruiters, etc. It's not because we play in the same conference as IUPUI. What a joke. Some people on this board are clueless. They just regurgitate whatever the idea of the day is in the MVC because they think the MVC is so awesome. No one outside of our local communities gives a rip about the MVC. I know someone that was raised in Bloomington and went to ISU because they got a scholarship to go there, not because of ISU being in the Big Ten with IU. I have an ex from Gary that went there because they had the field she wanted to major in, not because of Valpo or Loyola being in the MVC. This argument of adding markets for students is just beyond dumb. If your schools want students then advertise and give people a reason to go there. It's really not that complicated.

Athletics *IS* marketing and a helluva lot more effective than a billboard on an interstate somewhere.

[unipanther99]

I don't understand the anger from InSU fans, unless it's just the travel thing.

UNI (in 1991) was the last addition to the MVC that wasn't an easy drive for the Sycamores. Evansville, Loyola, Valpo, and Belmont came after. Murray is now assumed and would become yet another close trip. UIC basically replaces Loyola.

I would say the Sycamores have had it pretty good when it comes to MVC expansion. This isn't the Wabash Valley Conference, but it's trended that direction lately. I'm glad we are expanding the footprint.

And as far as basketball goes... Not every team is getting in the NCAA tournament. With an increased conference schedule, some combination of UTA/KC/Omaha's NET should be manageable, and not so much of a boat anchor, even if they aren't winning a ton. As Judge Smails would say, "the world needs ditch diggers too."

[All-MVC Fan]

I don’t think it is Indiana State fanS. It is an Indiana State fan or two that seem upset. Every school on here has one or two fans pissed off about some aspect of expansion.

[TBS_20]

Inst fans need to be quiet. Just be glad you haven't moved down to the ovc. You're last on the totem poll even if more schools join. Why do you even have football? You have the worst stadium in d2....d2!!!

[tribecalledquest]

I don't understand the anger from InSU fans, unless it's just the travel thing.

UNI (in 1991) was the last addition to the MVC that wasn't an easy drive for the Sycamores. Evansville, Loyola, Valpo, and Belmont came after. Murray is now assumed and would become yet another close trip. UIC basically replaces Loyola.

I would say the Sycamores have had it pretty good when it comes to MVC expansion. This isn't the Wabash Valley Conference, but it's trended that direction lately. I'm glad we are expanding the footprint.

And as far as basketball goes... Not every team is getting in the NCAA tournament. With an increased conference schedule, some combination of UTA/KC/Omaha's NET should be manageable, and not so much of a boat anchor, even if they aren't winning a ton. As Judge Smails would say, "the world needs ditch diggers too."

I've always been curious about UNI fans thoughts about expansion as it relates to travel. Do most of you basically understand that any expansion (outside of the Dakota schools) is going to have to be further away from you than closer? On that note - I like St. Thomas in Minneapolis - but I know you can't sell that right now.

And I wonder why UW-Milwaukee isn't an option. To me they make way more sense than UMKC and Omaha.