MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby tribecalledquest » December 18th, 2021, 11:38 am

RacerJoeD wrote:I’m not saying adding these teams will make the Valley as bad as the OVC, but you won’t be a multibid league most years.


There isn't a team out there that helps the MVC become a multi bid league. The answer to that lies in the performance of the teams already in the league who have gotten worse over time and have lowered standards to success.
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby RacerJoeD » December 18th, 2021, 11:52 am

tribecalledquest wrote:
RacerJoeD wrote:I’m not saying adding these teams will make the Valley as bad as the OVC, but you won’t be a multibid league most years.


There isn't a team out there that helps the MVC become a multi bid league. The answer to that lies in the performance of the teams already in the league who have gotten worse over time and have lowered standards to success.


Yeah that’s not true. There is a team available that made the OVC a multibid league…
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby IWokeUpLikeThis » December 18th, 2021, 11:54 am

tribecalledquest wrote:
RacerJoeD wrote:I’m not saying adding these teams will make the Valley as bad as the OVC, but you won’t be a multibid league most years.


There isn't a team out there that helps the MVC become a multi bid league. The answer to that lies in the performance of the teams already in the league who have gotten worse over time and have lowered standards to success.


Were you in a coma the year Murray St was a 6-seed and ranked in the AP Top-10? Holy cow!
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby Kyle_Saluki_17 » December 18th, 2021, 12:18 pm

smidge34 wrote:^^I'm ok with being left out of those low major additions.

Interesting take. Have fun with your top games of the year being against Morehead State, Little Rock, and SEMO. I'm really not sure how that is better than battling it out with Belmont, Drake, Northern Iowa, and possibly others (hopefully my Salukis over the next couple of years).

I know you're insulted by competing with historically lesser basketball programs but get real here. In the new version of the OVC, Murray would be guaranteed basically 9-10 NCAA tournaments over the next 10 seasons but be a 15-16 seed each time. And I'm sure the fans would still brag about having a "national brand" because of their "awesome record."
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby smidge34 » December 18th, 2021, 1:19 pm

I’d just as soon compete against SIUe and Martin as UT-Arlington or Omaha or Kc or UIC.
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby TBS_20 » December 18th, 2021, 1:24 pm

Is this a bit? Because the rest of the valley is far superior than the rest of the OVC. You're cherry picking a few teams
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby smidge34 » December 18th, 2021, 1:31 pm

We wait all this time to get in a conference on the uptick and now they’re looking like OVC-lite is all I’m saying. Sure it beats the OVC but it’s certainly losing it’s luster to me. The SoCon is looking better all the time.
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby Kyle_Saluki_17 » December 18th, 2021, 1:40 pm

smidge34 wrote:We wait all this time to get in a conference on the uptick and now they’re looking like OVC-lite is all I’m saying. Sure it beats the OVC but it’s certainly losing it’s luster to me. The SoCon is looking better all the time.

Even the A-10 has plenty of bottom feeders, but they are still an attractive conference. It isn't the bottom of the conference that matters when it comes to at-large bids. Its the top. And the top of the MVC isn't even remotely comparable to the OVC, especially with Belmont switching sides.
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby RacerJoeD » December 18th, 2021, 1:51 pm

Every conference has a bottom.

How many are 300+ NET matters.
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby BCPanther » December 18th, 2021, 1:53 pm

RacerJoeD wrote:Every conference has a bottom.

How many are 300+ NET matters.


Arlington, UIC and the current Valley has zero 300+ teams.
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