MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby smidge34 » December 18th, 2021, 3:15 pm

IWokeUpLikeThis wrote:The SoCon has 1 NCAA Tournament win in 12 years and has never received an at-large bid in its history.


If we were making this argument a few short years ago I’d be inclined to agree but imo today, in the present the SoCon is right there, especially considering what the MVC has lost and will be losing. There definitely isn’t a head and shoulders difference any longer, especially going forward.
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby smidge34 » December 18th, 2021, 3:16 pm

Action10 wrote:
smidge34 wrote:You mean from the SoCon ranked a spot ahead of the MVC in the NET?

Did I assume it was the the NET or did you bring it up? I can't remember.....


I brought it up as one point, not my only. Tired of spoonfeeding you. I said what I said and don’t really care to discuss it with your condescending attitude.
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby Action10 » December 18th, 2021, 3:23 pm

smidge34 wrote:If we were making this argument a few short years ago I’d be inclined to agree but imo today, in the present the SoCon is right there, especially considering what the MVC has lost and will be loosing. There definitely isn’t a head and shoulders difference any longer, especially going forward.

I am sorry for getting heated, I shouldn't have acted like that. I can see some logic in this point that you were making and agree that there isn't the gap there was even 5 years ago.
I would be expecting to see regression in the SoCon teams with the recent coaching changes at ETSU, Greensboro, and Wofford.
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby TBS_20 » December 18th, 2021, 3:23 pm

Don't feed the troll
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby smidge34 » December 18th, 2021, 3:26 pm

IWokeUpLikeThis wrote:The SoCon has 1 NCAA Tournament win in 12 years and has never received an at-large bid in its history.


How many NCAA wins and at-large bids between next season’s MVC teams the past 12 years out of curiosity? I can think of one at-large for Belmont (a gift to a retiring Rick Byrd but I digress).
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby smidge34 » December 18th, 2021, 3:26 pm

TBS_20 wrote:Don't feed the troll


I’ve been around here and posting awhile now. I guess I’m a troll if you don’t like or agree with my opinion.
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby smidge34 » December 18th, 2021, 3:28 pm

Action10 wrote:
smidge34 wrote:If we were making this argument a few short years ago I’d be inclined to agree but imo today, in the present the SoCon is right there, especially considering what the MVC has lost and will be loosing. There definitely isn’t a head and shoulders difference any longer, especially going forward.

I am sorry for getting heated, I shouldn't have acted like that. I can see some logic in this point that you were making and agree that there isn't the gap there was even 5 years ago.
I would be expecting to see regression in the SoCon teams with the recent coaching changes at ETSU, Greensboro, and Wofford.


Cool man, sorry too.
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby DUBulldog » December 18th, 2021, 7:09 pm

smidge34 wrote:
IWokeUpLikeThis wrote:The SoCon has 1 NCAA Tournament win in 12 years and has never received an at-large bid in its history.


How many NCAA wins and at-large bids between next season’s MVC teams the past 12 years out of curiosity? I can think of one at-large for Belmont (a gift to a retiring Rick Byrd but I digress).


Not sure, and really don't want to look it up, but I know Drake got an at-large last year.
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby IllinoisState » December 18th, 2021, 7:31 pm

DUBulldog wrote:
smidge34 wrote:
IWokeUpLikeThis wrote:The SoCon has 1 NCAA Tournament win in 12 years and has never received an at-large bid in its history.


How many NCAA wins and at-large bids between next season’s MVC teams the past 12 years out of curiosity? I can think of one at-large for Belmont (a gift to a retiring Rick Byrd but I digress).


Not sure, and really don't want to look it up, but I know Drake got an at-large last year.


I can think of plenty of times in the past 12 years when a Valley team has lost a bid to a "P5" team despite being much better though.
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Re: MVC Expansion Candidate Deep Dive

Postby smidge34 » December 18th, 2021, 8:41 pm

Yep same thing in the OVC, Murray and Belmont both got screwed over plenty by some 11-13 Big 12 or Big 10 team.
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