MVC Games Week 9

[chitown fanatic]

How do MSU fans deal with the roller coaster that is that team and coach?

Thats whats more frustrating! Dana is one of the worst coaches in the league....he was our only shot of getting back in the game and brian decided to sit our best player for the first segment of 2nd half...effectively costing us the game. he's a stubborn mule and I wont be sorry when he's gone. With our money and resources we shouldnt be laguishing in whether we play on Thursday year after year. Its year f'ing 7 Wardle!!! Wake the f up!!!!

[BuBrave2006]

wardle costs us another one.....getting old quickly. You dont sit your best guy after a bad half...I'm so done with Brian

He didn't "sit him." Terry had a bad first half and didn't start the second half. He still played 16 minutes in the second half. Terry averaged 29 minutes per game coming into this one and he played 25. If you want to criticize Wardle for taking him out for an extended period to send a message, then sure, but there are a lot of things Bradley did wrong and a lot of decisions that you could question of Wardle if you wanted to.

"Benching Terry in the second half" is not one of them.

[Sir Sci]

How do MSU fans deal with the roller coaster that is that team and coach?

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[tribecalledquest]

wardle costs us another one.....getting old quickly. You dont sit your best guy after a bad half...I'm so done with Brian

He didn't "sit him." Terry had a bad first half and didn't start the second half. He still played 16 minutes in the second half. Terry averaged 29 minutes per game coming into this one and he played 25. If you want to criticize Wardle for taking him out for an extended period to send a message, then sure, but there are a lot of things Bradley did wrong and a lot of decisions that you could question of Wardle if you wanted to.

"Benching Terry in the second half" is not one of them.

When a guy who has started every game and started every half for you and is your leading scorer doesn’t start the second half that is exactly what that is - a benching. During the start of the second half MSU outscored Bradley 12-2 with Roberts on the bench.

Connor Hickman also got benched. When Coach took him out of the game the last time he told Connor to take the rest of the night off.

[Drakey]

Schools need to quit giving these long term contracts to unproven coaches. Valpo and Bradley are both stuck with coaches who they don't want and it is killing their programs. Valpo will be starting from scratch when they get rid of Lottich. Bradley may be in a little better shape, but Wardle has not produced anything near what was expected of him. Bradley should be good year in and year out.

[BEARZ77]

Ford takes a lot of heat, deservedly at times, but that serves to overlook some things he does that seem to go unnoticed. Bradley posters focus on Robert's bad start and CBW's reaction, but overlook that it was Ford's decision to start 6'8 Donovan Clay on Roberts and be physical, which led to 5 early turnovers and his uneven play. After Bradley made a surge at the end of the half, Ford scripted the first play out in the second half to go to Prim down low, and the Bears executed perfectly and regained some momentum. Ford is what he is, but he's finished ahead of Wardle 2 of 3 years, beaten him 5 of 8 , twice in Peoria, and won 3 straight. Find it interesting when a team gets beat and it's fans focus on the shortcomings of who beat them.

[IllinoisState]

Valpo and Bradley are both stuck with coaches who they don't want and it is killing their programs.

Here too.

[tribecalledquest]

Ford takes a lot of heat, deservedly at times, but that serves to overlook some things he does that seem to go unnoticed. Bradley posters focus on Robert's bad start and CBW's reaction, but overlook that it was Ford's decision to start 6'8 Donovan Clay on Roberts and be physical, which led to 5 early turnovers and his uneven play. After Bradley made a surge at the end of the half, Ford scripted the first play out in the second half to go to Prim down low, and the Bears executed perfectly and regained some momentum. Ford is what he is, but he's finished ahead of Wardle 2 of 3 years, beaten him 5 of 8 , twice in Peoria, and won 3 straight. Find it interesting when a team gets beat and it's fans focus on the shortcomings of who beat them.

Is anyone here saying that Bradley/Brian Wardle are better than MSU/Dana Ford? I think you are projecting.

Maybe the rest of us overrate the actual talent on the MSU roster. I don't know - but I would trade that roster for Bradley's any day of the week.

[Action10]

Is anyone here saying that Bradley/Brian Wardle are better than MSU/Dana Ford? I think you are projecting.

Maybe the rest of us overrate the actual talent on the MSU roster. I don't know - but I would trade that roster for Bradley's any day of the week.

Odd question... Are both Bradley and Missouri State better with different head coaches?

[BEARZ77]

Is anyone here saying that Bradley/Brian Wardle are better than MSU/Dana Ford? I think you are projecting.

Maybe the rest of us overrate the actual talent on the MSU roster. I don't know - but I would trade that roster for Bradley's any day of the week.

I don't know, do comments like "Dana is one of the worst coaches in the MVC, he was our only shot at getting back in the game" sound like projection. And last time I looked , probably right at the top of a coaches most necessary skills is recruiting, but right behind that is player development. MSU doesn't have a single 4 star recruit or top 100 player; guys like Black and Patterson and Haney were all just guys coming out of HS,Valpo fans couldn't give away Clay fast enough, and even MU passed on Mosley right in their hometown. Again Dana has his shortcomings, but he does some things well and we are making progress, so I'll leave it at that.