MVC Games Week 9

[acecard1]

Drake extremely lucky to beat UE (and their refs) by 1. Most lopsided officiating I've ever seen

Apparently we were watching different games. My assessment from my seat at the game was the refereeing was poor and favored Drake not UE.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh this morning.

Drake was called for 23 fouls, UE for 13. I'll admit my bias, and I'll say it's definitely possible that one team fouled twice as much as the other. But, not sure how you can think the officiating was biased toward the team that was called for twice as many fouls.

Pretty much every poster on Drakenation brought up the officiating in their game comments. I know we're all biased, but this was the most I've ever seen officiating mentioned on one of our game threads.

Maybe the officials were just really, really bad.

There is more than just fouls called that make officials incompetent. There are the one's that aren't called. There are the charging-blocking calls that are blown. There are traveling calls that are missed. That's why the officials were incompetent in the Drake-UE game, and they sure weren't in the Aces favor for that game.

[BCPanther]

Saturday Night in The Valley remains a real thing. Not having access to the same level of officiating we do mid-week gets more and more obvious every year.

Going from guys that work deep into the tournament every year to guys that work 25 games a year total is a staggering difference and, unfortunately, doesn't really have a solution other than playing Sundays since the Big 12 is all Saturday.

You have a good point there. The three referees for the game were Kelly Self, Chase Shaw, and Kevin Driver. Self has worked 26 games this season, Shaw 16 games, and Driver 3 games.

Where are you pulling ref stats from? I've been lost since StatSheet shut down. I find ref schedules and assignments fascinating.

[BCPanther]

Saturday Night in The Valley remains a real thing. Not having access to the same level of officiating we do mid-week gets more and more obvious every year.

Going from guys that work deep into the tournament every year to guys that work 25 games a year total is a staggering difference and, unfortunately, doesn't really have a solution other than playing Sundays since the Big 12 is all Saturday.

I don't know who the officials were in the MSU-UNI game, but I thought they were a little whistle happy the last several minutes....great game.

Jeff Campbell, Gene Grimshaw, Roland Simmons

Longtime Saturday in the Valley guys.

Roland's full time job is actually coordinator of officials for Iowa High School Basketball. Great guy. Not a DI level ref.

[scotte101]

Saturday Night in The Valley remains a real thing. Not having access to the same level of officiating we do mid-week gets more and more obvious every year.

Going from guys that work deep into the tournament every year to guys that work 25 games a year total is a staggering difference and, unfortunately, doesn't really have a solution other than playing Sundays since the Big 12 is all Saturday.

I don't know who the officials were in the MSU-UNI game, but I thought they were a little whistle happy the last several minutes....great game.

Jeff Campbell, Gene Grimshaw, Roland Simmons

Longtime Saturday in the Valley guys.

Roland's full time job is actually coordinator of officials for Iowa High School Basketball. Great guy. Not a DI level ref.

Well they were bad…pretty much all game in my opinion. I’m also aware that I’m biased because my team lost by 1.

[tribecalledquest]

No one in the country plays more physical man-to-man defense than Loyola. Yet yesterday in an OT game they were only called for 15 fouls???? Bradley had 22.

You learn to expect that on the road (doesn't make it right). The only real call that was awful in the Bradley game was the four-point play call on Williamson. Just absolutely god awful and you can't make that call there. Especially when "flopping" is supposedly a point of interest.

I don't think Wardle even complained about that call. He might have hit Williamson's hand AND he crashed right into the landing spot.

It was an awful call. But it didn’t cost the game.

[bleach]

[quote="DUBulldog"}
I don't know who the officials were in the MSU-UNI game, but I thought they were a little whistle happy the last several minutes....great game.[/quote]
Very true and it benefitted UNI. It became a free throw contest and UNI will win most free throw contests.

[Kyle_Saluki_17]

The top 4 are who we thought they were.

Top 4, talent wise, are who we thought they were. I'm still not convinced that the final standings will be these top 4 teams. Mo State and UNI still seem to be very inconsistent, however really talented. AJ Green himself (my preseason choice for POY) has been all over the place this season. His 33% FG% is a sign of that.

[ahunte1]

No one in the country plays more physical man-to-man defense than Loyola. Yet yesterday in an OT game they were only called for 15 fouls???? Bradley had 22.

You learn to expect that on the road (doesn't make it right). The only real call that was awful in the Bradley game was the four-point play call on Williamson. Just absolutely god awful and you can't make that call there. Especially when "flopping" is supposedly a point of interest.

I don't think Wardle even complained about that call. He might have hit Williamson's hand AND he crashed right into the landing spot.

It was an awful call. But it didn’t cost the game.

LOL... ok

According to Kenpom, yesterday's refs at Loyola were Randy Heimerman, Ervin Wilson, and Ed Crenshaw.

It was Heimerman's 21st game of the year. 10th for the other two. Wilson's first game since Dec 18.

[chitown fanatic]

The top 4 are who we thought they were.

Top 4, talent wise, are who we thought they were. I'm still not convinced that the final standings will be these top 4 teams. Mo State and UNI still seem to be very inconsistent, however really talented. AJ Green himself (my preseason choice for POY) has been all over the place this season. His 33% FG% is a sign of that.

UNI will NOT finish top 4....book that.

[Birdfan2018]

The top 4 are who we thought they were.

Top 4, talent wise, are who we thought they were. I'm still not convinced that the final standings will be these top 4 teams. Mo State and UNI still seem to be very inconsistent, however really talented. AJ Green himself (my preseason choice for POY) has been all over the place this season. His 33% FG% is a sign of that.

UNI will NOT finish top 4....book that.

I will take that bet!