2022 Postseason Awards Predictions

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Re: 2022 Postseason Awards Predictions

Postby BEARZ77 » February 27th, 2022, 11:42 am

glm38 wrote:POY is a really tough call between Mosley and Green. I suspect it'll go to green because UNI finished a game ahead of MSU in the standings.

But to me it's extremely close. I think green was more consistent but Mosely had some spectacular games.



Don't think Green was more consistent overall, but Mosley had a 3-4 game lull late in season which stood out. The difference for me is two-fold; Mosley is so much more efficient across the board shooting the ball, and Mosley does more . Neither defends that well, and their passing #'s are similar, but Mosley is the best rebounding guard in the league, leads the league in defensive rebounding. The 0-2 vs UNI by MSU will probably decide it, but actually , if not Mosley, I would have picked Williamson , because he again does more than Green. But usually, to the winner go the spoils.
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Re: 2022 Postseason Awards Predictions

Postby glm38 » February 27th, 2022, 11:57 am

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glm38 wrote:POY is a really tough call between Mosley and Green. I suspect it'll go to green because UNI finished a game ahead of MSU in the standings.

But to me it's extremely close. I think green was more consistent but Mosely had some spectacular games.



Don't think Green was more consistent overall, but Mosley had a 3-4 game lull late in season which stood out. The difference for me is two-fold; Mosley is so much more efficient across the board shooting the ball, and Mosley does more . Neither defends that well, and their passing #'s are similar, but Mosley is the best rebounding guard in the league, leads the league in defensive rebounding. The 0-2 vs UNI by MSU will probably decide it, but actually , if not Mosley, I would have picked Williamson , because he again does more than Green. But usually, to the winner go the spoils.


By consistent i mean it seemed to me Green mostly avoided some of the low production games Mosely had. But I didn't follow UNI every game so I could be wrong.

You are right about efficiency. The difference in overall shooting percentage is striking. Mosely 50% and Green 41%.
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Re: 2022 Postseason Awards Predictions

Postby BEARZ77 » February 27th, 2022, 12:42 pm

glm38 wrote:By consistent i mean it seemed to me Green mostly avoided some of the low production games Mosely had. But I didn't follow UNI every game so I could be wrong.

You are right about efficiency. The difference in overall shooting percentage is striking. Mosely 50% and Green 41%.


It's close, but again favors Mosley; both had 6 games under 10 pts during the season. Green had 14 x 20+ games, while Mosley had 18 x 20+ games. Add in the shooting efficiency numbers and the significant rebounding differential and it's just hard to vote against Mosley as this years best , but ........
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Re: 2022 Postseason Awards Predictions

Postby Birdfan2018 » February 27th, 2022, 1:25 pm

glm38 wrote:POY is a really tough call between Mosley and Green. I suspect it'll go to green because UNI finished a game ahead of MSU in the standings.

But to me it's extremely close. I think green was more consistent but Mosely had some spectacular games.

Very tough call. I would choose Green for two reasons: 1) UNI won the Conference Title. 2) Green scored 20 or more points in the last six games, Mosley only had three 20 or more points in his last six games. Green finished stronger down the stretch and that won UNI the Title.
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Re: 2022 Postseason Awards Predictions

Postby BEARZ77 » February 27th, 2022, 1:44 pm

Birdfan2018 wrote:
glm38 wrote:POY is a really tough call between Mosley and Green. I suspect it'll go to green because UNI finished a game ahead of MSU in the standings.

But to me it's extremely close. I think green was more consistent but Mosely had some spectacular games.

Very tough call. I would choose Green for two reasons: 1) UNI won the Conference Title. 2) Green scored 20 or more points in the last six games, Mosley only had three 20 or more points in his last six games. Green finished stronger down the stretch and that won UNI the Title.


That's a valid argument on both points , and probably the only one that could be made that would justify Green , as Mosley had the better statistics and is overall able to do more than Green. But like I said, to the winner go the spoils, most usually, and doubt this will be different.
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Re: 2022 Postseason Awards Predictions

Postby sivert » February 27th, 2022, 8:40 pm

Larry Bird POY is down to AJ Green and Isiaih Mosley.

It’s very tight between them in conference play, though statistically, Isiaih is a little ahead, IMO.

https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?l ... d=20220501

https://barttorvik.com/poy.php?conlimit ... r=2022&yr=

If you include OOC, Isiaih is further ahead.

If “best player on best team” is the target, AJ will get it, since UNI won the conference season championship race and UNI won the head to head with MSU.
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Re: 2022 Postseason Awards Predictions

Postby SalukiWorld » February 27th, 2022, 9:44 pm

MVC First Team:
-Isiaih Mosley, Missouri State
-AJ Green, Northern Iowa
-Gaige Prim, Missouri State
-Lucas Williamson, Loyola Chicago
-Terry Roberts, Bradley

MVC Second Team:
- Rienk Mast, Bradley
-Marcus Domask, Southern Illinois
-Noah Carter, Northern Iowa
-Antonio Reeves, Illinois State
-Garrett Sturtz, Drake

MVC Third Team:
-Tucker DeVries, Drake
-Cooper Neese, Indiana State
-Lance Jones, Southern Illinois
-Ben Krikke, Valparaiso
-Braden Norris, Loyola Chicago

Honorable Mentions:
-Chris Knight, Loyola
-Shamar Givance, Evansville

MVC Player of the Year:
Isiaih Mosley, Missouri State

MVC Defensive POY:
Lucas Williamson, Loyola Chicago

MVC Freshman of the Year:
Tucker DeVries, Drake

MVC Newcomer of the Year:
Terry Roberts, Bradley

MVC 6th Man of the Year:
Tank Hemphill, Drake

MVC Most Improved Player:
Antonio Reeves, Illinois State

MVC Coach of the Year:
Ben Jacobson, Northern Iowa
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Re: 2022 Postseason Awards Predictions

Postby BEARZ77 » February 28th, 2022, 7:41 am

sivert wrote:Larry Bird POY is down to AJ Green and Isiaih Mosley.

It’s very tight between them in conference play, though statistically, Isiaih is a little ahead, IMO.

https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?l ... d=20220501

https://barttorvik.com/poy.php?conlimit ... r=2022&yr=

If you include OOC, Isiaih is further ahead.

If “best player on best team” is the target, AJ will get it, since UNI won the conference season championship race and UNI won the head to head with MSU.


I think that's pretty much it; what do the voters most value. Isiaih has better stats and can do more, but Green's team won the league and the h/h match up. Having watched both for 3 years , I have no doubt Isiaih is the more gifted and can do more, but Green has an uncanny knack for hitting big shots and being big at crunch time on a team that has won 2 titles in his time. Tough call, two of the best in the Valley in years.
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Re: 2022 Postseason Awards Predictions

Postby So iLL 24 » February 28th, 2022, 8:14 am

First Team All-Conference
Isaiah Mobley
Gage Prim
AJ Green
Terry Roberts
Lucas Williamson

Second Team All Conference
Antonio Reeves
Rienk Mast
Marcus Domask
Noah Carter
Tucker Devries


Third Team All-Conference

Braden Norris
Garrett Sturtz
Roman Penn
Ben Krikke
Lance Jones

POY - Mosley

DPOY - Williamson

FOY - Devries

Newcomer - Roberts

COY - Jacobson
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