If Missouri State leaves, who do you add?

[TBS_20]

Did I take this long to actually think about all this? It's Thanksgiving at work. Enough said.

*First up are the three major conferences
*Some MVFC teams moved on to the three sub-FBS conferences after what will be the Big 3
*You can see what I think the future MVC conference will be
*I added the Little 3 conferences to show why the XDSU's will eventually join the Mountain West because the Mountain West will be gutted



B1G (24)


Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, Penn State, Rutgers, Virginia

Purdue, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Ohio State

Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin

California, California-Los Angeles, Oregon, Southern California, Stanford, Washington




SEC (24)


Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina, Miami

Cincinnati, Kentucky, Louisville, Missouri, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State

Baylor, Houston, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M




Big 12 (28)


Boston College, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, West Virginia

Central Florida, Georgia Tech, Memphis, North Carolina State, South Florida, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

Arizona, Arizona State, San Diego State, Southern Methodist, Texas Christian, Texas-San Antonio, Texas Tech

Brigham Young, Boise State, Colorado, Nevada-Las Vegas, Oregon State, Utah, Washington State




Next up: Fresno State



Big East (16)


Eastern

Butler
Connecticut
Georgetown
Seton Hall
St. John's
Providence
Villanova
Xavier


Western

Creighton
Dayton
DePaul
Gonzaga
Loyola-Chicago
Marquette
St. Louis
St. Mary's



Mountain West Conference (20+2)


Eastern

New Mexico 7
New Mexico State 7
North Dakota State 9
North Texas 8
Rice 8
South Dakota State 9
Tulsa 11
Texas-El Paso 10
Texas State 10
Wyoming 1


Western

Air Force 1
Colorado State 2
Fresno State 3
Hawaii 4
Montana 5
Montana State 5
Nevada-Reno 6
Sacramento State 6
San Jose State 3
Utah State 2

Non-football member schools

Grand Canyon
Wichita State





Sun Belt Conference (24+2)


North

Army 4
Appalachian State 3
Coastal Carolina 5
East Carolina 3
Marshall 8
Massachusetts 4
North Carolina-Charlotte 5
James Madison 8
Liberty 9
Navy 11
Old Dominion 9
Temple 11


South

Alabama-Birmingham 1
Alabama State 2
Florida Atlantic 6
Florida International 6
Georgia Southern 7
Georgia State 7
Kennesaw State 2
Louisiana-Lafayette 10
Louisiana Tech 10
Southern Mississippi 12
Troy 1
Tulane 12

Non-football member schools

Davidson
Virginia Commonwealth



Mid-American Conference

Akron 1
Ball State 3
Bowling Green 4
Buffalo 5
Central Michigan 6
Eastern Michigan 1
Kent State 5
Miami (OH) 11
Ohio 11
Toledo 3
Western Michigan 6
Youngstown State 4


South

Arkansas State 2
Chattanooga 7
Eastern Kentucky 7
Jacksonville State 9
Illinois State 8
Louisiana-Monroe 10
McNeese State 10
Middle Tennessee State 12
Missouri State 2
Northern Illinois 8
South Alabama 9
Western Kentucky 12

Non-football member schools

Belmont
Murray State



Top 2 teams from the “Group of 3” (Mid-American, Mountain West, and Sun Belt) play for automatic bid into a future 16-team CFP playoff



Missouri Valley Conference (18) (of the future)


Eastern

Bellarmine (Louisville, KY)
Detroit-Mercy/Oakland (Detroit, MI/Detroit suburb)
Evansville (Evansville, IN)
Illinois-Chicago (Chicago, IL)
Indiana State (Terre Haute, IN)
Northern Kentucky (Cincinnati, OH suburb)
Valparaiso (Valparaiso, IN)
Wright State (Dayton, OH)
Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Milwaukee, WI)


Western

Bradley (Peoria, IL)
Drake (Des Moines, IA)
North Dakota (Grand Forks, ND)
Northern Iowa (Cedar Rapids, IA)
Oral Roberts (Tulsa, OK)
South Dakota (Vermillion, SD)
Southern Illinois (Carbondale, IL)
St. Thomas (Minneapolis, MN)
Texas-Arlington (Dallas, TX suburb)


16 games vs 8 other teams in division
3 games vs 9 teams from other division
1 in-conference bracket buster style game
20 total conference games

[sivert]

Well, we’re not moving to Cedar Rapids.

[mvfcfan]

Missouri State's football came back down to earth this season, so I doubt they'll be too high on the Sun Belt's list if they want to expand. I'd say WKU, MTSU, LA Tech, and FIU are easily ahead of them in the pecking order.

Personally for me, I don't want any expansion beyond 12 teams.

I don't think you understand what drives expansion very well. That said, I'm fine staying in the Valley and watching what else happens in the next few years.

I actually do. Quality and / or market. WKU and MTSU beat MSU in both categories easily. FIU has an edge due to market. There's really nothing impressive about MSU football or the Springfield market.

[BEARZ77]

Missouri State's football came back down to earth this season, so I doubt they'll be too high on the Sun Belt's list if they want to expand. I'd say WKU, MTSU, LA Tech, and FIU are easily ahead of them in the pecking order.

Personally for me, I don't want any expansion beyond 12 teams.

I don't think you understand what drives expansion very well. That said, I'm fine staying in the Valley and watching what else happens in the next few years.

I actually do. Quality and / or market. WKU and MTSU beat MSU in both categories easily. FIU has an edge due to market. There's really nothing impressive about MSU football or the Springfield market.

Thankfully, we're not limited to your understanding of things ; but you obviously are. While W.Kentucky is obviously an established FBS program with some success and therefore I would expect to be a solid candidate, market wise , there is little comparison. Bowling Green has a population of 72,000 and a metro area of 165,000. They have the 182nd television market. W Kentucky has an enrollment of 14,000. Springfield has a population in excess of 165,000 and a metro area of 475,000. It is the 74th television market and MSU has 10,000 more students than WKU. I didn't look up the rest since you clearly didn't know what you were talking about. Maybe they show better results for your need to dis MSU, I don't know and don't really care since again, your grasp of the subject is quite limited.

[jsaluki080]

Mid-American Conference

Akron 1
Ball State 3
Bowling Green 4
Buffalo 5
Central Michigan 6
Eastern Michigan 1
Kent State 5
Miami (OH) 11
Ohio 11
Toledo 3
Western Michigan 6
Youngstown State 4

South

Arkansas State 2
Chattanooga 7
Eastern Kentucky 7
Jacksonville State 9
Illinois State 8
Louisiana-Monroe 10
McNeese State 10
Middle Tennessee State 12
Missouri State 2
Northern Illinois 8
South Alabama 9
Western Kentucky 12

Non-football member schools

Belmont
Murray State

Why do you have Belmont and Murray joining the MAC?

[mvfcfan]

Thankfully, we're not limited to your understanding of things ; but you obviously are. While W.Kentucky is obviously an established FBS program with some success and therefore I would expect to be a solid candidate, market wise , there is little comparison. Bowling Green has a population of 72,000 and a metro area of 165,000. They have the 182nd television market. W Kentucky has an enrollment of 14,000. Springfield has a population in excess of 165,000 and a metro area of 475,000. It is the 74th television market and MSU has 10,000 more students than WKU. I didn't look up the rest since you clearly didn't know what you were talking about. Maybe they show better results for your need to dis MSU, I don't know and don't really care since again, your grasp of the subject is quite limited.

WKU is only an hour away from Nashville and MTSU is only 30 minutes from Nashville. Both schools have a clear advantage if you look at the bigger picture. Also the Sun Belt has a history now of adding schools based mostly on quality, which is why they added schools like CCU, GASO, APP, JMU, MU, USM which are all in smaller markets. MSU has never been a quality program, while WKU has actually won a CUSA championship. If you want FBS call the CUSA. They hand out membership like lollipops.

The only advantage MSU has is if the SBC won't add former members that left for CUSA because of sour grapes.

Also I get it. You're a MSU fan and want an SBC invite extremely bad. You are just sticking up for your program, but you better hope about 3 schools get raided from the Belt if you ever hope to get an invite. MSU is not JMU.

[BEARZ77]

You really need to learn to read and also stick by your assertions . First I've never advocated for MSU to move to FBS, in fact, been a consistent voice for liking the MVC and wanting to wait to see how things play out . Secondly , you picked markets as one of your criteria, were wrong about market size, then tried to act like W Kentucky is in the Nashville market, and now say the SunBelt has taken smaller markets anyway. You speak out of way too many sides of your mouth. Market size is important, previous success has some value, but so does enrollment, facilities, institutional fit, projections for growth, and countless other things that you conveniently avoid addressing . Again I really don't care if we move or don't, but you seem to have a need to diminish MSU , so have at it .

[SalukiWorld]

Petrino leaves Missouri State with 0 playoff wins:
https://twitter.com/clowespn/status/160 ... bHmAUGCyXQ

[PretzelDawg]

Bobby Petrino in Vegas seems like a wild time. Hopefully, Barry Odom can keep him reeled in. Their offense should be fun to watch if he isn't too busy giving showgirls motorcycle rides.

[BEARZ77]

Bears move quickly and name defensive coordinator Ryan Beard as new HC. Not sure if he'll retain Nick Petrino as offensive coordinator, but I'd guess so unless Nick has a gig with his dad in Vegas . Ryan is also the son-in-law of Bobby , Nick is one of Bobby's sons. Made sense especially as Beard has been very involved in recruiting especially several local kids , and he's paid his dues working with other programs and coaches prior to hooking up with Petrino. We'll see what he can do as head man now.