Is The Missouri Valley A 2-Bid League?

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If Indiana State loses at Arch Madness, is the Missouri Valley a 2-bid league?

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Yes
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No
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Is The Missouri Valley A 2-Bid League?

Postby MissouriValleyUnite » January 21st, 2024, 6:33 pm

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10th NET
10th KenPom

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15-3 (7-1)
28 NET
30 RPI
43 KenPom
23 BartTorvik
1-3/1-0/5-0/8-0
Key Wins: @Bradley
Bad Losses: None

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15-3 (7-1)
44 NET
27 RPI
48 KenPom
49 BartTorvik
1-0/3-0/4-3/7-0
Key Wins: Nevada
Bad Losses: SFA, @UAB, @Belmont

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13-5 (6-2)
63 NET
33 RPI
75 KenPom
63 BartTorvik
1-1/1-1/6-2/5-1
Key Wins: Utah St
Bad Losses: @Murray St, Cleveland St, Duquesne
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Re: Is The Missouri Valley A 2-Bid League?

Postby jsaluki080 » January 21st, 2024, 6:45 pm

Yes, we are a 2 bid league if ISUb doesn't get the autobid at Arch Madness.
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Re: Is The Missouri Valley A 2-Bid League?

Postby bradley_townie » January 21st, 2024, 9:41 pm

The more these 3 teams separate from the rest of the league, the better shot at an at-large. Feels like Bradley would have to almost win out and lose in the Arch Madness championship to even be in the at-large conversation though.
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Re: Is The Missouri Valley A 2-Bid League?

Postby Kyle_Saluki_17 » January 21st, 2024, 9:47 pm

bradley_townie wrote:The more these 3 teams separate from the rest of the league, the better shot at an at-large. Feels like Bradley would have to almost win out and lose in the Arch Madness championship to even be in the at-large conversation though.

Bradley probably won’t but if they were able to get to top 50, they would provide another Q1 opportunity for anyone that plays them in Arch Madness.
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Re: Is The Missouri Valley A 2-Bid League?

Postby IllinoisState » January 21st, 2024, 11:18 pm

No. They will do everything in their power to prevent it from happening.
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Re: Is The Missouri Valley A 2-Bid League?

Postby BUFanatic » January 22nd, 2024, 4:26 am

IllinoisState wrote:No. They will do everything in their power to prevent it from happening.


This 100%. I answered “yes” because we SHOULD be if these top 3 keep taking care of business. Be ready for the .500 P6 schools to get in over us. I wish someone would try to start another tournament that rewarded performance instead of market size like the NCAAt did when I was growing up.

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Re: Is The Missouri Valley A 2-Bid League?

Postby Majik45 » January 22nd, 2024, 8:34 am

Assuming ISUb continues winning like they have been, and drops only games to Drake or Bradley, then yes, I think they get in. It will be a shame if they don't, as they definitely are deserving of a bid.
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Re: Is The Missouri Valley A 2-Bid League?

Postby BCPanther » January 22nd, 2024, 8:37 am

We absolutely are by every measure except the all important 'conference logo patch on the front of the jersey' metric.

If Indiana State were able to go 18-2 and get to Sunday and lose to a Top 100 team, they might get to go to Dayton.

The SFA loss is an automatic disqualifier for Drake.

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Re: Is The Missouri Valley A 2-Bid League?

Postby BuBrave2006 » January 22nd, 2024, 8:46 am

If Drake and/or Indiana State get to 17-3 (or maybe even Bradley considering what they'd have to do to get to 17-3) and lose on sunday in STL, they are both 100% in. I understand the paranoia of assuming the conference is going to get screwed, but no one has hardly ever gotten screwed with a resume that Indiana state would have in that scenario and Drake wouldn't be far behind. Let's all walk back from the ledge a little bit.

The concern for me is Indiana State and/or Drake getting there and avoiding bad losses.
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Re: Is The Missouri Valley A 2-Bid League?

Postby BCPanther » January 22nd, 2024, 9:06 am

BuBrave2006 wrote:If Drake and/or Indiana State get to 17-3 (or maybe even Bradley considering what they'd have to do to get to 17-3) and lose on sunday in STL, they are both 100% in. I understand the paranoia of assuming the conference is going to get screwed, but no one has hardly ever gotten screwed with a resume that Indiana state would have in that scenario and Drake wouldn't be far behind. Let's all walk back from the ledge a little bit.

The concern for me is Indiana State and/or Drake getting there and avoiding bad losses.


Those teams can only lose to each other UNI and SIU at this point. Any other loss is devastating.
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