Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby VUGrad1314 » October 2nd, 2024, 1:50 am

Great move for UTEP. Better FB Conference than CUSA still (I believe) and much better travel situation with more regional appeal tons for them. Hope NMSU will be next or I hope (for Gonzaga's sake as I am also a Gonzaga fan) that they somehow get a PAC invite (even though I know it'll never happen) so that that hoops program gets in there. A bit surprised Gonzaga jumped without knowing the full conference lineup but it could be a solid move if the league fills out well. Word is the conference might also invite St Mary's and Grand Canyon which would be huge for the hoops side of things. As for the Valley I'd say we're likely better than the MWC right now and on par or slightly better than the WCC right now without Gonzaga. If they lose one or both of SMC and GCU then we're for sure better. It'll be P4 BE PAC AAC (if they stay intact) and then possibly MVC or A10 (if they stay intact Still don't know why the BE hasn't called up Dayton SLU and possibly more from there) most years. McMurphy just said the PAC is circling back to Memphis so maybe they're going to make another run at the AAC Schools with a better offer.
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby ValleyFAN » October 2nd, 2024, 3:37 pm

Missouri State just announced they will open their football season at USC next season with a payout of 1.15 million, plus USC will cover all travel costs. This alone is an example of why they wanted to move. Just not possible to pull this type of game in the MVFC.

Just for comparison, they were originally supposed to play at Arkansas for $500,000. Arkansas wouldn’t pay more so the game was canceled. I believe Western Kentucky got about $2 million (and a slot on ESPN2) to play at Bama this year. FBS buy games have a lot of value.
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby BCPanther » October 2nd, 2024, 4:00 pm

ValleyFAN wrote:Missouri State just announced they will open their football season at USC next season with a payout of 1.15 million, plus USC will cover all travel costs. This alone is an example of why they wanted to move. Just not possible to pull this type of game in the MVFC.

Just for comparison, they were originally supposed to play at Arkansas for $500,000. Arkansas wouldn’t pay more so the game was canceled. I believe Western Kentucky got about $2 million (and a slot on ESPN2) to play at Bama this year. FBS buy games have a lot of value.


Congrats on your 10 PM eastern kick on BTN, I guess.
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby Aces44 » October 2nd, 2024, 4:51 pm

BCPanther wrote:
ValleyFAN wrote:Missouri State just announced they will open their football season at USC next season with a payout of 1.15 million, plus USC will cover all travel costs. This alone is an example of why they wanted to move. Just not possible to pull this type of game in the MVFC.

Just for comparison, they were originally supposed to play at Arkansas for $500,000. Arkansas wouldn’t pay more so the game was canceled. I believe Western Kentucky got about $2 million (and a slot on ESPN2) to play at Bama this year. FBS buy games have a lot of value.


Congrats on your 10 PM eastern kick on BTN, I guess.


And getting beat by 70 on National TV

Woo Hoo Go Bears!!
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby TylerDurden » October 2nd, 2024, 8:28 pm

ValleyFAN wrote:Missouri State just announced they will open their football season at USC next season with a payout of 1.15 million, plus USC will cover all travel costs. This alone is an example of why they wanted to move. Just not possible to pull this type of game in the MVFC.

Just for comparison, they were originally supposed to play at Arkansas for $500,000. Arkansas wouldn’t pay more so the game was canceled. I believe Western Kentucky got about $2 million (and a slot on ESPN2) to play at Bama this year. FBS buy games have a lot of value.



Is this the seat at the table you were talking about?

Congratulations, you're the Chicago State of FBS.
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby tribecalledquest » October 2nd, 2024, 8:56 pm

TylerDurden wrote:
ValleyFAN wrote:Missouri State just announced they will open their football season at USC next season with a payout of 1.15 million, plus USC will cover all travel costs. This alone is an example of why they wanted to move. Just not possible to pull this type of game in the MVFC.

Just for comparison, they were originally supposed to play at Arkansas for $500,000. Arkansas wouldn’t pay more so the game was canceled. I believe Western Kentucky got about $2 million (and a slot on ESPN2) to play at Bama this year. FBS buy games have a lot of value.



Is this the seat at the table you were talking about?

Congratulations, you're the Chicago State of FBS.


Anytime you can become the Arkansas Pine Bluff of FBS football you have to do it.
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby Mikovio » October 3rd, 2024, 6:58 am

That’s great but the B1G and SEC are discussing scheduling which will likely cut down on those body bag opportunities in the future. They want to each go to 9 conference games and play each other more out of conference, which would really hurt the G5 programs which depend on the revenue from these games.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... artnership

The MAC median football expense last year was $10 million and the average CUSA football expense was $14 million.

https://knightnewhousedata.org/fbs/c-us ... university

So these opportunities are small but critical to their budgets. The MAC and CUSA schools only get $800K each from their TV deals and the MAC has to play multiple games on Tuesdays which kills ticket sales. But the grass always seems greener.
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby BCPanther » October 3rd, 2024, 8:01 am

There are two types of FBS move ups---

1) Schools that have money, have a plan and have had success at the FCS level that allows them to hit the ground running and have their community and donor base on board. Think App State, James Madison, Marshall, Western Kentucky.

2) Schools that think going FCS is going to solve all their financial and competitiveness problems because they are going to get bigger checks for buy games and a TV revenue check. Past success and readiness aren't even considered.

I'll let you all decide which category Missouri State falls into.
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby ReZyNeZy » October 4th, 2024, 1:40 pm

Whelp UTEP miners made it official this morning...
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby Mikovio » October 8th, 2024, 1:11 pm

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... y-backing/
The latest re-imagination of college football now includes a multi-billion-dollar proposal spearheaded by former Disney executives for a system funded by private equity, sources confirmed to CBS Sports on Tuesday.

The 70-team structure that would seemingly exclude the bottom tier of the FBS would be funded by private equity firm Smash Capital, sources told CBS Sports. The project would include $9 million infused into a system that would expand the college football postseason, change scheduling and feature tiered revenue distribution.

All those influences, thanks to conference realignment, are already featured as the College Football Playoff field expands from four teams to 12 this season. What were formerly marquee nonconference games in the SEC and Big Ten are now conference games in those two leagues. Going forward, those two leagues will also evenly split 59% of the CFP revenue distribution.

The new proposal, however, would eliminate all games against current Group of Five and FCS teams. The 70 schools would be shopped as a single-entity media rights package. It is not immediately clear which 70 schools would be included.
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