Missouri Valley - Mountain West Challenge to end?

[jlandrus11]

The MVC needs to get something done with the Horizon League. The HL has some very good teams like the Cleveland State and Butler of last year. Valpo is good but not great but would be a good opponent for the Drakes or UE's. I'd like to see a Butler-Creighton match-up.

Horizon? No way. Once you get past the top team or two it's garbage.

It's the same with the Mountain West.

[LMS]

The MVC needs to get something done with the Horizon League. The HL has some very good teams like the Cleveland State and Butler of last year. Valpo is good but not great but would be a good opponent for the Drakes or UE's. I'd like to see a Butler-Creighton match-up.

Horizon? No way. Once you get past the top team or two it's garbage.

It's the same with the Mountain West.

The MTN had 2 top five teams last year.

[jlandrus11]

Like you just said, after the top couple teams the conference is garbage.

[unipanther99]

School - Attendance - 8yr RPI - Best - Worst
Tulsa - 5,676 - 137.38 - 53 - 287

Tulsa basketball has really fallen off considerably since leaving the MVC. I would imagine all of these numbers were much better the last 8 years they were in our conference. I suppose moving has marginally helped their football program, but at what cost? Cautionary tale?

[LMS]

Like you just said, after the top couple teams the conference is garbage.

Go ask the AD's and I guarantee you they feel the MTN is much much better than the Horizon by a 10-0 vote.

[jlandrus11]

I don't know about you but I would much rather play a team that has been to the national championship game the last 2 years than a Boise State or Colorado State. But I want this league to get multiple bids, unlike you who wants us to play the CUSA or MWC.

[LMS]

I don't know about you but I would much rather play a team that has been to the national championship game the last 2 years than a Boise State or Colorado State. But I want this league to get multiple bids, unlike you who wants us to play the CUSA or MWC.

You wouldn't get Butler- Creighton or Wichita St would. You'd end up with Detroit.

[jlandrus11]

I'm not talking about us getting Butler, I am talking about the MVC in general.

[DUBulldog]

I'm not talking about us getting Butler, I am talking about the MVC in general.

Doesn't Butler usually play at least one MVC team every year?

[jlandrus11]

Butler plays at Evansville this season.