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[MoValley John]

The Sun rises from the East and Indiana State sucks at football? Might want to check some of the 1-AA polls John.

As far as I know, Indoana State sucks at football. I don't care about the 1-AA polls, either. But since you are proud of where Indiana State is sitting, why don't you post where they are ranked, then baller and I will know. I'm not searching for 1-AA polls, I'm not looking at volleyball or baseball polls, either. Until you post the polls, we will just assume that Indiana State sucks.

[IsuBob]

The Sun rises from the East and Indiana State sucks at football? Might want to check some of the 1-AA polls John.

As far as I know, Indoana State sucks at football. I don't care about the 1-AA polls, either. But since you are proud of where Indiana State is sitting, why don't you post where they are ranked, then baller and I will know. I'm not searching for 1-AA polls, I'm not looking at volleyball or baseball polls, either. Until you post the polls, we will just assume that Indiana State sucks.

Here is the link. Look to the left in recent articles where it has other polls.
http://www.collegesportingnews.com/cont ... 10-20-2010

[unipanther99]

As far as I know, Indoana State sucks at football.

Well, you said that was based on what you were reading on a message board last year... The message board this year tells a different story. Let's lighten up on the Sycamores. It's not yet proven that they are good, but I think it's fair to say they don't suck this year.

This thread was started because you said you wanted to hear more about what was going on with Valley football. Well, here it is. Indiana State is a half game out of first place. More shocking than that is Western Illinois is alone in first place.

Western Illinois 3-1 5-2
Indiana State 2-1 4-2
Northern Iowa 2-1 3-3
Illinois State 3-2 4-3
Southern Illinois 2-2 3-4
South Dakota State 2-2 2-4
Missouri State 1-2 2-4
North Dakota State 1-3 4-3
Youngstown State 1-3 3-4

[IsuBob]

As far as I know, Indoana State sucks at football.

Well, you said that was based on what you were reading on a message board last year... The message board this year tells a different story. Let's lighten up on the Sycamores. It's not yet proven that they are good, but I think it's fair to say they don't suck this year.

This thread was started because you said you wanted to hear more about what was going on with Valley football. Well, here it is. Indiana State is a half game out of first place. More shocking than that is Western Illinois is alone in first place.

Western Illinois 3-1 5-2
Indiana State 2-1 4-2
Northern Iowa 2-1 3-3
Illinois State 3-2 4-3
Southern Illinois 2-2 3-4
South Dakota State 2-2 2-4
Missouri State 1-2 2-4
North Dakota State 1-3 4-3
Youngstown State 1-3 3-4

Very shocking with WIU. They are having a great year, and what a turnaround. We have a huge test against NDSU on the road.

[MoValley John]

As far as I know, Indoana State sucks at football.

Well, you said that was based on what you were reading on a message board last year... The message board this year tells a different story. Let's lighten up on the Sycamores. It's not yet proven that they are good, but I think it's fair to say they don't suck this year.

This thread was started because you said you wanted to hear more about what was going on with Valley football. Well, here it is. Indiana State is a half game out of first place. More shocking than that is Western Illinois is alone in first place.

Western Illinois 3-1 5-2
Indiana State 2-1 4-2
Northern Iowa 2-1 3-3
Illinois State 3-2 4-3
Southern Illinois 2-2 3-4
South Dakota State 2-2 2-4
Missouri State 1-2 2-4
North Dakota State 1-3 4-3
Youngstown State 1-3 3-4

Thank you for the info. I still don't see where Indiana State is ranked, however. Are they Top 15? And no, directing a casual fan to look something up IS asking too much.

Things that draw questions:
1. Western Illinois? How do any self respecting Valley fans allow Wetsern Illinois to be leading the league? C'mon, I know this is a hybrid league, but a school that is Valley in every Valley sport should be winning this thing!
2. UNI has lost three games? Wow! I was under the impression that they were a 1-AA football mill. That may explain the lack of activity on the football board. The UNI bandwagon hasn't completely derailed, but in football, the train came off the tracks.
3. Southern Illinois at 3-4? WTF? All I ever heard about was the epic SIU- UNI football battles. You guys were supposed to be the balls. What happened?
4. Illinois State underachieving? Different sport, same result.

[IsuBob]

As far as I know, Indoana State sucks at football.

Well, you said that was based on what you were reading on a message board last year... The message board this year tells a different story. Let's lighten up on the Sycamores. It's not yet proven that they are good, but I think it's fair to say they don't suck this year.

This thread was started because you said you wanted to hear more about what was going on with Valley football. Well, here it is. Indiana State is a half game out of first place. More shocking than that is Western Illinois is alone in first place.

Western Illinois 3-1 5-2
Indiana State 2-1 4-2
Northern Iowa 2-1 3-3
Illinois State 3-2 4-3
Southern Illinois 2-2 3-4
South Dakota State 2-2 2-4
Missouri State 1-2 2-4
North Dakota State 1-3 4-3
Youngstown State 1-3 3-4

Thank you for the info. I still don't see where Indiana State is ranked, however. Are they Top 15? And no, directing a casual fan to look something up IS asking too much.

Things that draw questions:
1. Western Illinois? How do any self respecting Valley fans allow Wetsern Illinois to be leading the league? C'mon, I know this is a hybrid league, but a school that is Valley in every Valley sport should be winning this thing!
2. UNI has lost three games? Wow! I was under the impression that they were a 1-AA football mill. That may explain the lack of activity on the football board. The UNI bandwagon hasn't completely derailed, but in football, the train came off the tracks.
3. Southern Illinois at 3-4? WTF? All I ever heard about was the epic SIU- UNI football battles. You guys were supposed to be the balls. What happened?
4. Illinois State underachieving? Different sport, same result.

John, I posted the link?????

[MoValley John]

John, I posted the link?????

That is the point, I'm not linking away. I have eight tabs open, five for business and one of them happens to be mvcfans. If I hit your link, I'm gone. Is it so hard for you to tell us what Indiana State is ranked? Based on your pride and braggadocio, I'd say you guys are 15-18, correct? I doubt two losses would be top 10, even in 1-AA. Did you guys just get into the top 25, 22nd-24th?

I really don't want to get into a pissing match over football. Really I don't, but please, just tell us where the mighty Sycamores are ranked. And since you want to talk Valley football, tell us why Illinois State sucks. It seems like they were a favorite going in, what happened?

[valleychamp]

UNI had a very very young team this year, and had a terribly difficult early season schedule. I am not at all surprised to see us at 3-3. And I think most UNI fans projected this season to be somewhat of a rebuilding year, still with a chance to be a playoff contender. We do have a team that is capable of winning from here on out with the remaining schedule we have though, which is probably necessary to make the playoffs this season.

The turnaround WIU has made has been pretty remarkable, though they have not yet faced the 'meat' of their schedule. We'll see how they turn out after they face some of the better teams in the conf. Its also nice to see In St start to win a few games. You couldn't be any lower than they were as a program, and that is incredibly hard to overcome, but they seem to be headed in the right direction with their new staff.

All and all, it is a very down year for the MVFC. Lots of young teams, and injuries have made it a pretty mediocre league at this moment. Every week has been crazy, and it has left the standings a mess.

[unipanther99]

Thank you for the info. I still don't see where Indiana State is ranked, however. Are they Top 15? And no, directing a casual fan to look something up IS asking too much.

Things that draw questions:
1. Western Illinois? How do any self respecting Valley fans allow Wetsern Illinois to be leading the league? C'mon, I know this is a hybrid league, but a school that is Valley in every Valley sport should be winning this thing!
2. UNI has lost three games? Wow! I was under the impression that they were a 1-AA football mill. That may explain the lack of activity on the football board. The UNI bandwagon hasn't completely derailed, but in football, the train came off the tracks.
3. Southern Illinois at 3-4? WTF? All I ever heard about was the epic SIU- UNI football battles. You guys were supposed to be the balls. What happened?
4. Illinois State underachieving? Different sport, same result.

Good (and fair) questions!

1. The Leathernecks used to be a football power in the Gateway, but have fallen on hard times in recent years. I questioned the schools removal of their former coach, but it seems to have provided a spark to this team.

2. UNI is okay. Nobody expected this to be an outstanding year for the Panthers. Too many questions about the line and a quarterback controversy as well. We beat the teams we were supposed to beat, and lost to the teams we were supposed to lose to. As for the activity, there was never really that much serious football talk on Valleytalk. Whenever anyone tried, the discussion was quickly derailed. Hopefully it will pick up here, but certainly this is a basketball-centered forum.

3. I don't really know what the deal is with the Salukis this year. As for the UNI/SIU game, I don't know if it was an "epic" battle, but the game did go to overtime this year (with SIU winning for the 3rd straight time).

4. No comment, the Rebirds come to the UNI-Dome this Saturday and I don't want to jinx it.

[IsuBob]

John, I posted the link?????

That is the point, I'm not linking away. I have eight tabs open, five for business and one of them happens to be mvcfans. If I hit your link, I'm gone. Is it so hard for you to tell us what Indiana State is ranked? Based on your pride and braggadocio, I'd say you guys are 15-18, correct? I doubt two losses would be top 10, even in 1-AA. Did you guys just get into the top 25, 22nd-24th?

I really don't want to get into a pissing match over football. Really I don't, but please, just tell us where the mighty Sycamores are ranked. And since you want to talk Valley football, tell us why Illinois State sucks. It seems like they were a favorite going in, what happened?

We are ranked 25th, and the Valley is the 2nd best conference in the nation with 5 teams in the top 25.