Drake and UNI lose annual Iowa & Ia St games

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Re: Drake and UNI lose annual Iowa & Ia St games

Postby uniftw » February 23rd, 2012, 3:14 pm

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uniftw wrote:Long story short the state of Iowa is f-ing UNI in the A


Believe it or not, I agree!

It's not like UNI is short on money and not bending over backwards to make people happy to not have more taken.

UNI has done everything asked of them, and then some, and only asked they don't have *as much* taken from them the next year only to be told "F YOU WE WANT MOAR FROM YOU AND LESS FROM ISU/UI."


Their reasoning at one point (and may still be) was that UI/ISU don't need general fund money for athletics....however, they failed to admit/realize that without the 20+ million UI gets from the BTN and ISU's 20+ million they get from the new B12 set up they are in the same spot as UNI. Heck, up until that new deal ISU was using general fund money for athletics.
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Postby 2livewu » February 23rd, 2012, 3:41 pm

Is there any chance the legislators will step in and try to reverse this? Wasn't there a thought at one time that's why the 4 were playing in the first place?
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Re: Drake and UNI lose annual Iowa & Ia St games

Postby uniftw » February 23rd, 2012, 3:45 pm

2livewu wrote:Is there any chance the legislators will step in and try to reverse this? Wasn't there a thought at one time that's why the 4 were playing in the first place?

No it won't happen...

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Pretty sure that has never been the case, if it was it was LONG ago.
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Re: Drake and UNI lose annual Iowa & Ia St games

Postby 2livewu » February 23rd, 2012, 3:47 pm

Well that sucks....What do you think UNI will do with the extra open date? They've been fairly willing to challenge themselves in the non-conference...does that get replaced with a home patsy or a tough road game?
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Re: Drake and UNI lose annual Iowa & Ia St games

Postby valleychamp » February 23rd, 2012, 3:47 pm

The legislators are the same people that are F'ing UNI in the first place, why would they give a crap about forcing Iowa and ISU to come play in the Mcleod Center?
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Re: Drake and UNI lose annual Iowa & Ia St games

Postby valleychamp » February 23rd, 2012, 3:49 pm

2livewu wrote:Well that sucks....What do you think UNI will do with the extra open date? They've been fairly willing to challenge themselves in the non-conference...does that get replaced with a home patsy or a tough road game?


We will likely have to schedule a home patsy, because a) we will definitely need to replace the lost home game, and b) its already been proven that we cannot get good schools to come play in our arena.
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Re: Drake and UNI lose annual Iowa & Ia St games

Postby uniftw » February 23rd, 2012, 3:51 pm

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2livewu wrote:Well that sucks....What do you think UNI will do with the extra open date? They've been fairly willing to challenge themselves in the non-conference...does that get replaced with a home patsy or a tough road game?


We will likely have to schedule a home patsy, because a) we will definitely need to replace the lost home game, and b) its already been proven that we cannot get good schools to come play in our arena.

We already have played multiple D3's....why not bring someone like SEMO, WIU, USD (now full D1 starting next year) in. Yes, it kills the living piss out of our RPI but it's a home date on top of the D3.
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Re: Drake and UNI lose annual Iowa & Ia St games

Postby uniftw » February 23rd, 2012, 4:06 pm

Latest about UNI cuts...quotes from Dannen

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20120223/SPORTS0207/120223028/Northern-Iowa-athletics-take-financial-hit-but-no-sports-axed

As expected, the University of Northern Iowa announced the latest round of budget cuts today, and Panther athletic teams will feel the effects.

Though no sports will be cut or de-emphasized, unlike 2009 when baseball was eliminated, athletic director Troy Dannen said today he is charged with the task of slicing $500,000 in general education fund money from his budget over the next three years.

When Dannen was hired in 2008, the athletic department received $5.5 million from the general fund. With this cut, the allocation dips to $3.8 million.

The goal, Dannen said Thursday, will be to fund-raise most of it back. In 2010, the Iowa Board of Regents put a 2.4 percent cap on how much UNI athletics can take from the general fund. With $162 million in the fund, Dannen said, Northern Iowa is now at 2.7 percent and moving closer to the goal.

Becoming completely financially self-sufficient, he added, is impossible for an athletic department at a school like Northern Iowa. That’s because, unlike Iowa and Iowa State and other Football Bowl Subdivision schools, UNI athletics receives no television money from football.

“The TV money they receive,” Dannen said, “is more than our budget.”


“The current funding model at UNI is not sustainable,” he said. “If we want to be alive in 10 years, let alone competitive, we have to trend more toward a student fee model. That’s how schools like Illinois State, Southern Illinois and Indiana State fund their programs.”

It’s a controversial model.

“It’s a very dicey direction to go with the growing tuition burden and debt load already on the students,” Dannen said. “That’s different from 10 years ago. When schools went to this type of model, the tuition levels were more palatable.”

And yet, he said, the changes and cuts can be made without diminishing the level of achievement the Panthers have enjoyed over the past several years.

“This time, much of the pain is going to be internal. We might have to hold off on new uniforms and equipment. We might have to eliminate some positions, though not coaching in year one.”

Dannen said he believes the Division I basketball program will remain competitive on the mid-major level while the football team should continue to excel in the Football Championship Subdivision, directly below the top collegiate rung.

“We’ve stripped everything down to the point where the only thing we have left to touch are scholarships,” Dannen said, “and that’s the lifeblood of the department.
“Nothing that’s happening is going to affect the ability to compete or graduate our athletes. It might be a little tougher or more uncomfortable internally. But as we cut the general fund money, we have to be careful we don’t diminish our ability to generate other revenues to sustain the program as a whole. I can’t cut a dollar from football if it’s going to prevent me from generating two dollars.”

Despite the cuts, Dannen said, the athletic department was in far worse shape four years ago when it was running a half million dollar deficit. The reserves had been drained. There was no money in the bank.

Dannen also said his department will return $2.5 million in tuition and fees to the university.

Some of the financial pain will be alleviated by the two football games UNI plays with FBS teams Wisconsin and Iowa.

The UNI football team will receive $450,000 to play in Madison on Sept. 1 and another $500,000 to play in Iowa City two weeks later.

Dannen said the athletic department is also in the middle of a money-raising campaign. Though the initial goal was $15 million, he said, $26 million has now been raised.

He also said the athletic department generates income on concerts and other events, such as the recent Jason Aldean concert, which will bring in $200,000 that can be spent on the UNI-Dome and other sports facilities without taxing athletic department finances.

It hasn’t been the best week for the Panthers, who also find themselves with a hole in their football schedule.

A few days ago, Savannah State pulled out of its game at the UNI-Dome after signing an agreement to play Florida State instead in the second week of the season.

Florida State will pay Savannah State $475,000 -- or $325,000 more than Northern Iowa guaranteed. Dannen said Savannah State must pay UNI a $200,000 exit fee.

Now the problem becomes filling the vacancy in a schedule with only four home games and a home opener five weeks into the season.



Also, an interesting quote from Regent Gardner

If culture is the unique problem at Iowa, money is at UNI. The main purpose of state aid is to subsidize the education of undergraduates from the state, and UNI is woefully shortchanged. State aid is divided roughly 40-40-20 among Iowa, ISU and UNI, for reasons lost in history. Iowa receives $17,628 for each state undergraduate, Iowa State gets $10,802, and UNI gets $7,502. If the money were allocated fairly, $48.5 million would be redirected to UNI, mainly at the expense of Iowa.
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Re: Drake and UNI lose annual Iowa & Ia St games

Postby valleychamp » February 23rd, 2012, 4:39 pm

This is the type of crap we have to put up with here in Iowa. Taken from Des Moines Register article:
If culture is the unique problem at Iowa, money is at UNI. The main purpose of state aid is to subsidize the education of undergraduates from the state, and UNI is woefully shortchanged. State aid is divided roughly 40-40-20 among Iowa, ISU and UNI, for reasons lost in history. Iowa receives $17,628 for each state undergraduate, Iowa State gets $10,802, and UNI gets $7,502. If the money were allocated fairly, $48.5 million would be redirected to UNI, mainly at the expense of Iowa.
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Re: Drake and UNI lose annual Iowa & Ia St games

Postby PantherSigEp » February 23rd, 2012, 5:34 pm

I will never understand why the BOR and state legislators feel the need to not only cut funding from UNI but cut in a manner disproportionate to Iowa and Iowa State. Those schools do not have funding problems, their athletics are self-sufficient or near self-sufficient, they receive a lot of money from out of state students (especially Iowa) and they receive about 1.5-2 times as much funding as UNI does per student. Yet each year more "fat" gets trimmed from UNI's budget causes programs to merge, majors and classes to be eliminated and not the educational research lab school and UNI Museum will be closing to reallocate resources.

While I am glad that there are talks about raising student fees, since we currently have some of the lowest amongst all MVC and MVFC teams ($1.2 million generated from 13,000 students/year), the fact that these cuts are happening at UNI, causing profound results, compared to the other 2 regents where it would be a ripple on the pond, is beyond me. It's as if they actually believe that UNI can become completely self-sufficient and cutting funding will expedite the process. It makes no logical sense but none of this budget non-sense does, the state of Iowa isn't even running a budget deficit.
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