Beane to SIU, SIU also adds recruit

[BirdmanBB]

It was a joke obviously however, if Van Vleet hasn't enrolled yet, I don't think WSU could really stop him from going wherever he wants (I guess technically they could). It would be bad form on the kids part to do that to WSU, but it would also be bad form on WSU's part not to grant his release to any school.

We granted Moore his release to only BCS schools, but the difference is that he has already been enrolled at ISU and played for a season. Van Vleet nor Beane, nor McDermott had done anything yet.

What? I'm sorry was Moore transferring to another Valley team? Did WSU's head coach just leave? Moore, Beane, McDermott, and Van Vleet are all 4 different situations, especially Van Vleet since he is still coming to WSU. Besides like I said before I'm sure Marshall would release him, just no Valley schools and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

The biggest difference between Moore and everyone else is that when they asked to leave, they had not yet been enrolled at the schools. All they had was their LOI's. Huge difference IMO.

If the greatest reason Van Vleet chose WSU was because of Ford and now he is no longer there (and Marshall knew that), I don't see why he wouldn't release him to the school of his choosing.

Right now the kid is an unknown. It would be much different if he had already played a season for you.

In Moore's situation, he indicated he wanted his release specifically to BCS schools regardless of the next head coach. We granted him everything that he was asking for.

[uniftw]

It was a joke obviously however, if Van Vleet hasn't enrolled yet, I don't think WSU could really stop him from going wherever he wants (I guess technically they could). It would be bad form on the kids part to do that to WSU, but it would also be bad form on WSU's part not to grant his release to any school.

We granted Moore his release to only BCS schools, but the difference is that he has already been enrolled at ISU and played for a season. Van Vleet nor Beane, nor McDermott had done anything yet.

Once a recruit signs a LOI they are considered a player and all transfer rules are in place just as they would be for a player who started for 2 years at one school and wanted to transfer.

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It was a joke obviously however, if Van Vleet hasn't enrolled yet, I don't think WSU could really stop him from going wherever he wants (I guess technically they could). It would be bad form on the kids part to do that to WSU, but it would also be bad form on WSU's part not to grant his release to any school.

We granted Moore his release to only BCS schools, but the difference is that he has already been enrolled at ISU and played for a season. Van Vleet nor Beane, nor McDermott had done anything yet.

Once a recruit signs a LOI they are considered a player and all transfer rules are in place just as they would be for a player who started for 2 years at one school and wanted to transfer.

Unless the school grants them a release of their LOI.

[BirdmanBB]

It was a joke obviously however, if Van Vleet hasn't enrolled yet, I don't think WSU could really stop him from going wherever he wants (I guess technically they could). It would be bad form on the kids part to do that to WSU, but it would also be bad form on WSU's part not to grant his release to any school.

We granted Moore his release to only BCS schools, but the difference is that he has already been enrolled at ISU and played for a season. Van Vleet nor Beane, nor McDermott had done anything yet.

Once a recruit signs a LOI they are considered a player and all transfer rules are in place just as they would be for a player who started for 2 years at one school and wanted to transfer.

If that is true, then why has McDermott been playing the last 2 years? Will Beane have to sit on the bench for 2 years before he can play for SIU?

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It was a joke obviously however, if Van Vleet hasn't enrolled yet, I don't think WSU could really stop him from going wherever he wants (I guess technically they could). It would be bad form on the kids part to do that to WSU, but it would also be bad form on WSU's part not to grant his release to any school.

We granted Moore his release to only BCS schools, but the difference is that he has already been enrolled at ISU and played for a season. Van Vleet nor Beane, nor McDermott had done anything yet.

Once a recruit signs a LOI they are considered a player and all transfer rules are in place just as they would be for a player who started for 2 years at one school and wanted to transfer.

If that is true, then why has McDermott been playing the last 2 years? Will Beane have to sit on the bench for 2 years before he can play for SIU?

No. ISU released him free and clear.

[uniftw]

It was a joke obviously however, if Van Vleet hasn't enrolled yet, I don't think WSU could really stop him from going wherever he wants (I guess technically they could). It would be bad form on the kids part to do that to WSU, but it would also be bad form on WSU's part not to grant his release to any school.

We granted Moore his release to only BCS schools, but the difference is that he has already been enrolled at ISU and played for a season. Van Vleet nor Beane, nor McDermott had done anything yet.

Once a recruit signs a LOI they are considered a player and all transfer rules are in place just as they would be for a player who started for 2 years at one school and wanted to transfer.

If that is true, then why has McDermott been playing the last 2 years? Will Beane have to sit on the bench for 2 years before he can play for SIU?

He didn't have to sit because UNI gave him a full release...imagine the outrage against UNI if they didn't allow son to play for father....especially with how close Jake and Mc$ are. It didn't help things at all, that before UNI even confirmed Doug had asked for a released Doug Elgin stepped in and said, essentially, "The conference won't enforce any rule here. We are thrilled to have Greg back in the league and don't want to do anything to piss him off. We don't want to be the bad guys here forcing a kid to be punished for backing out of a signed national letter of intent to play for his dad and having to face the consequences of doing so. If anyone is going to do that, we are going to force Dannen and Jacobson to look like the bad guys".


He didn't really say that, but his statement amounted to that. Did I mention he did that before UNI had even confirmed Doug asked for his release?




Back on topic. Yes, if a kid is released from his LOI and both the conference and school sign off on it there is no restriction on it.

[Trapped in CA]

What's the point of having a rule of penalizing intra-conference transfers if you don't enforce it? If you want to make a clear cut exception for coaches' kids, then make it a rule. Otherwise, it perpetuates the view of special treatment.

Don't like it.

[DoubleJayAlum]

What's the point of having a rule of penalizing intra-conference transfers if you don't enforce it? If you want to make a clear cut exception for coaches' kids, then make it a rule. Otherwise, it perpetuates the view of special treatment.

I think the highlighted language illustrates the flaw in the argument. One can't transfer from something until one actually starts something...

An LOI is a promise to start somewhere; it isn't starting somewhere.

[Trapped in CA]

What's the point of a LOI then? Anyone can change their mind until school starts under your reading. Choices have consequences, good and/or bad.

[Haha]

Dang people...

LOI locks you into that school unless you get release. If you do not get the release then you have to wait a year, even if you don't receive aid/attend that school. YOU HAVE TO GET THE RELEASE.

If you get release and have never received aid/attended initial school you can play right away as you are not transferring.

If you actually attended/received aid you have to sit out a year as you are transferring.

Release from LOI and transferring are two different things.