What happens to each MVC team?

[shoxrox]

Sad that people are speculating that the Valley will no longer exist in a few years, considering it's over a century old, one of the oldest conferences in America, and has had so much great history over the years.

All of this BS realignment stuff is really ruining a lot of great history, rivalries, and just all around fudging things up.

[DUBulldog]

Sad that people are speculating that the Valley will no longer exist in a few years, considering it's over a century old, one of the oldest conferences in America, and has had so much great history over the years.

All of this BS realignment stuff is really ruining a lot of great history, rivalries, and just all around fudging things up.

[Kyle]

Personally, I'd rather have UNI join the MAC as a football/wrestling only member and stay in the MVC for all other sports.

The MVC has two roads it can follow when s*** hits the fan. They can watch themselves get picked apart until eventually dissolving or becoming summit league vs2.0, or they can be aggressive and acquire some schools who are being left in the cold.

I think a handful of high quality BB schools (SLU, Butler, Memphis, VCU) are going to be looking for a new home after the dust settles. The Big East will be a shell of it's former self in a couple years, so I don't see Memphis following through with it's move. The A-10 is about to be gutted, which will leave VCU, Butler, and SLU on the outside looking in. Elgin needs to be proactive and get some of those schools on board, along with plucking a few other schools (Murray State, Oral Roberts) to get to a 16 team league.

[CBB_Fan]

Personally, I'd rather have UNI join the MAC as a football/wrestling only member and stay in the MVC for all other sports.

The MVC has two roads it can follow when s*** hits the fan. They can watch themselves get picked apart until eventually dissolving or becoming summit league vs2.0, or they can be aggressive and acquire some schools who are being left in the cold.

I think a handful of high quality BB schools (SLU, Butler, Memphis, VCU) are going to be looking for a new home after the dust settles. The Big East will be a shell of it's former self in a couple years, so I don't see Memphis following through with it's move. The A-10 is about to be gutted, which will leave VCU, Butler, and SLU on the outside looking in. Elgin needs to be proactive and get some of those schools on board, along with plucking a few other schools (Murray State, Oral Roberts) to get to a 16 team league.

If Butler and Saint Louis are left out, invite them to MVC immediately, along with 2-4 other quality programs. If you don't, Wichita State and Creighton go to the A-10 and this whole thing happens anyway.

The MVC is in a way screwed by geography more than anything else. We are a basketball conference in a region of the country that loves football way more than basketball.

[glm38]

Sad that people are speculating that the Valley will no longer exist in a few years, considering it's over a century old, one of the oldest conferences in America, and has had so much great history over the years.

All of this BS realignment stuff is really ruining a lot of great history, rivalries, and just all around fudging things up.

[uniftw]

FWIW every party of the country love football more than basketball

[CBB_Fan]

FWIW every party of the country love football more than basketball

True, but what I mean is that teams without FBS football programs are going to have a hard time joining up with similar schools in the Midwest. In the East, at least you'd see enough similar schools to make a quality conference or three.

[TheAsianSensation]

If you try to break it down, the big problem is Marquette and DePaul. If it was just the 5 Catholics on the east coast together, then those 5 could stay east and regionalize. But having the Chicago/Milwaukee market in fold gives them a foothold in the midwest. That allows them to put more footholds in the midwest (Butler, St Louis, Creighton, whatever).

If they didn't have Marquette/DePaul, they'd be much more inclined to not bother. And then Bradley/Creighton/Wichita/Drake would be in an absolutely PERFECT situation to start up a conference with them, Marquette, DePaul, Butler, St Louis, and a couple others of their choosing.

Allowing the Big East to penetrate to the fringes of the MVC footprint was the real death knell, if there is one, to the Valley.

[CBB_Fan]

Allowing the Big East to penetrate to the fringes of the MVC footprint was the real death knell, if there is one, to the Valley.

This is the culmination of a 20+ year cycle. In 1991, Marquette and DePaul joined the Great Midwestern Conference, along with Dayton, Cincinnati, Saint Louis, Memphis, and UAB.

At the same time, the Missouri Valley consisted of:

Drake
Tulsa
Creighton
Wichita State
Bradley
SIU
Illinois State
Indiana State
Missouri State

UNI was added 91, Evansville in 94.

Imagine the differences if the MVC had joined with some of the member of the Great Midwestern Conference? I'm thinking Marquette, DePaul, Cincinnati, and Saint Louis. Completely different landscape, and the MVC would probably be a top-5 conference right now.

Anyway, that didn't happen. The GWC merged with the Metro and Southwestern conferences to form C-USA, which was raided to add to the Big East. All these schools came from different areas of the country, and had widely varying interests, creating a very unstable Big East (which ultimately led to its demise).

If those schools had joined the MVC instead, I think the geography and common cultures of the various teams would have fit together better than the Big East, and I think both the MVC and Big East would still be somewhat stable.

[havoc]

FWIW every party of the country love football more than basketball

You've never been to Indiana.