Creighton @ Wichita State

[GoShockers89]

Good grief, he's clearly talking about the play where Orupke was called for a travel and then the officials conferred and switched to a foul call on whoever undercut him on the rebound.

He's wrong that replay reversed it, however. It was a judgment call of the official closer to halfcourt (further away but with an unobstructed view) overruling the ref on the baseline. Undoubtedly that reversal would be much more unlikely to happen if the game was in Omaha, but that's college basketball and was hardly a difference maker in the game.

[shoxrox]

Ha...what a DB....not missing in action.....but on a Caribbean Cruise where it's 80. Obsessed much about me???
How's the weather in Wichiturd? Heck, how's anything in Wichiturd?
Congrats to WS....see u in omaha!

Are you cruising to Fantasy Island, with your internet girfriend that is really a swimsuit model?

I can see why he planned his "vacation" when he did, to sidetrack his mind from the sorrows in Omaha after this weekend's game.

[3ontheway]

Good grief, he's clearly talking about the play where Orupke was called for a travel and then the officials conferred and switched to a foul call on whoever undercut him on the rebound.

He's wrong that replay reversed it, however. It was a judgment call of the official closer to halfcourt (further away but with an unobstructed view) overruling the ref on the baseline. Undoubtedly that reversal would be much more unlikely to happen if the game was in Omaha, but that's college basketball and was hardly a difference maker in the game.

Thanks for having some common sense. Slim pickings around here. It was a horseshit call, but you are right it didn't have a huge impact. However, the game was tied and the shocks made a 3 with that found possession. The Gibbs thing is just a dumb rule, I hate it when the jays opponents are called for it too. There better be clear intent to give the other team a possible 5 point possession.

[shoxrox]

Thanks for having some common sense. Slim pickings around here. It was a horseshit call, but you are right it didn't have a huge impact. However, the game was tied and the shocks made a 3 with that found possession. The Gibbs thing is just a dumb rule, I hate it when the jays opponents are called for it too. There better be clear intent to give the other team a possible 5 point possession.

It was the correct call but a horseshit rule. I tend to agree with you there. But if it's a rule, it's going to be called.

It certainly didn't cost Creighton the game.

[WhiskeySierraUniform]

Not much to say about the game. I expected a shocker victory and it happened. Was a little surprised that bju was even less athletic than I thought. Shox played horribly on offense and still got the W. I thought bju was an offensive juggernaut? Sure didn't look like it. I was personally more impressed with Evansville. No team in this conference can match the shox athleticism or have an answer for Carl hall, and he's still not 100%.

[iSASO]

Who failed to tell Malcom Armstead that Jordan Rules state that no one is allowed to steal the ball from Doug McDermott while he methodically backs down his defender for one of those patented low-altitude layups?

How many times in his life has that happened?

[cu36]

Not much to say about the game. I expected a shocker victory and it happened. Was a little surprised that bju was even less athletic than I thought. Shox played horribly on offense and still got the W. I thought bju was an offensive juggernaut? Sure didn't look like it. I was personally more impressed with Evansville. No team in this conference can match the shox athleticism or have an answer for Carl hall, and he's still not 100%.

I would agree that WSU is more athletic than CU. Overall, they probably run faster 40 times, have bigger verticals and bench more than CU. But this is also a skill game, is it not? Granted athleticism can make up for skill deficiencies, but to say that you can win on athleticism alone is ignorant from a basketball mindset. Seeing as the game was so close at your place, a top ten home advantage if you will, would it not be prudent to suggest that skill-wise CU is also superior to WSU? Personally, I think that WSU is more athletic than CU as equally as CU is more skilled than WSU. It makes for great games when you put the two against each other. I haven't seen much from CU posters suggesting that CU is more athletic but I have't seen a WSU poster admit that there is the possibility that CU is more fundamentally sound than WSU.

Both teams missed shots they don't usually miss. For instance, I would put the entire season on Ethan Wragge making one of the two threes he got in the closing seconds of the game, I am that confident in him and he has shown that those are two very high percentage shots for him. Neither of them went down and CU lost the game. That isn't to say that Ethan lost the game, but I think that everything was even enough throughout the game that I would put my money on Ethan's skill any day of the week.

As for your Carl Hall comment, I have a feeling Greg would argue that he can 'answer' him. From what I have seen, WSU fans like to look at head to head match ups. Carl Hall had 17 points, 13 rebounds and 1 block. Greg had 9 points, 13 rebounds and 5 blocks. They are fairly similar numbers with the blocks being in favor of Greg and the points in favor of Hall. Hall took ten more shots than Greg to score 8 more points and I am willing to concede that if you admit that Greg got more blocks because WSU was taking more shots around the basket, especially due to offensive rebounds. Does this not make the two fairly equal? I think it does. Not trying to say that Greg is better than Hall or vice versa, but to say that no one has an answer for Hall is unfounded.

All that being said, I wish WSU the best of luck for the next 10 games, 11 if you count the BB game, and await the game in Omaha. I have no doubt it will be a good one.

[ABC]

9 points and 17 points are not similar.

[cu36]

9 points and 17 points are not similar.

Scroll down a little more.

[cu36]

You don't have to agree with me, which you obviously don't, but here's how I'm looking at it...

Rebounds are even.

Hall has the advantage in points 17 to 9.

Greg has the advantage in blocks 5 to 1.

To keep it as simple as possible and avoid going into shot charts, gained/lost possessions and shooting percentage. Hall had 8 more points, and the difference in blocks lead to a CU 'gain' or a WSU 'loss' of 8 points. Fairly similar numbers to me, again you don't have to agree with me but I don't see those being worthy of a claim that no one has an answer for Hall.