Conference Realignment - impact on MVC?

[Jet915]

I know this is probably just another internet rumor but this poster is apparently brother's of someone on the PC board of directors and this is what he said regarding the Feinstein article:

This article is totally bogus. Any part that has merit is common knowledge at this point anyway.

I did not say Richmond is not on any list anywhere - I said Richmond is not on THE list and I stand by that. Siena is not on the list.

There is no 6 east and 6 west agreement especially for BB. Detroit is not on the list.

Creighton is well thought of and St.L is "on the bubble".

There is no Catholic "rule".

Butler and X are in and they asked in immediately.

Dayton is lobbying every BB 7 President to get in.

It is not true that the listed Presidents have no interest in who is in the league. Father Shanley is involved with BE negotiations etc. on a daily basis along with the Nova President.

AD's want 10 teams and Fox wants 12 The number is not really decided yet and there is no TV contract (just a verbal offer) and tere cannot be one until there is a league to negotiate with. MT is a consultant to PC so there is no grudge there at least with PC and he is semi retired in FLA and probably does not want to return to be Commisioner but has promised (on the record) to do whatever he can to help PC basketball - n ot necessarily the league.

MT was quoted extensively after he "retired" that Bb schools should dump FB ASAP before any of this happened - like 1 1/2 years ago.

As I said mostly BS. I suppose all you have to do is say you got it from an unnamed inside source and then you can print anything.

The big issue right now is how the $80M in the bank gets divided. Once that is settled - or goes to court - the rest of the dominos will fall quickly. Big East name is up in the air because Aresco is trying to hold the $80M hostage.

The $2.5M per year for FB and BB is for 2014/2015. There needs to be a bridge BB TV contract for 2013/2014 in any event - this impacts BB 7 if 2014 is the exit date - which it probably is.

ND went to the ACC because they needed to hook up with one of the leagues that now have major bowl tie ins. BE no longer has major bowl tie in and the "at large" route is shaky. ND gets the major (Orange) bowl over even the ACC playoff winner if they meet certain requirements. FSU and some other major ACC FB schools are VERY unhappy about that.

[TheAsianSensation]

Kinda surprised Siena snuck onto the radar. I would've had my darkhorse guess be Holy Cross.

I'm guessing the C7 already view St Louis/Marquette/DePaul extreme outliers as is.

Also watch to see about Detroit Mercy. If that happens, the Horizon will invite Oakland in about 2.7 seconds, and the Summit is going to have big problems retaining their autobid.

[TheAsianSensation]

I'm going to give everyone a fantasy scenario.

Let's say Feinboy over there is right somehow, and lets say they say Creighton is too far away and take Detroit instead of Butler because of the Catholic thing, and it's Richmond instead of Siena:

East: Richmond, G'town, Nova, St Johns, Seton Hall, Provi
West: Marq, DePaul, StL, Detroit, Dayton, X

All of a sudden the MVC keep their 10 teams, and now Duquesne is the closest school in the A-10 to Butler. You can make a play to invite Butler and a 12th team of your choosing in this fantasy. In fact, I don't think Butler would have a choice. This would be the remnants of the A-10 as compared to the MVC 10

VCU
Duquesne
George Washington
St Joseph's
St Bonaventure
LaSalle
Fordham
Rhode Island
UMass

[pafan]

I'm going to give everyone a fantasy scenario.

Let's say Feinboy over there is right somehow, and lets say they say Creighton is too far away and take Detroit instead of Butler because of the Catholic thing, and it's Richmond instead of Siena:

East: Richmond, G'town, Nova, St Johns, Seton Hall, Provi
West: Marq, DePaul, StL, Detroit, Dayton, X

All of a sudden the MVC keep their 10 teams, and now Duquesne is the closest school in the A-10 to Butler. You can make a play to invite Butler and a 12th team of your choosing in this fantasy.

This fantasy is definitely better than the XDSU fantasy. There's really nothing an Evansville fan would like more than to have Butler in the MVC.

Pick UMKC or Western Illinois as the 12th team (to keep the east/west and public/private balance), and

[MVCfans]

Who knows if any of this is accurate, but it's being reported that UNC has an offer from the Big Ten.

http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2013/2 ... r-virginia

[TheAsianSensation]

It's my understanding (god knows if this is any more right or wrong than that article) that UNC has had some form of a standing invite for awhile. Kind of a "hey if you're ever interested, come hit us up". Same thing as with Notre Dame. And I remember a rumor that Vandy has it too.

Really, though, I have no frickin' idea what the hell is going on in this one.

[title]

I was told it was going to be Richmond, Butler, Xavier, SLU, and Dayton a couple days ago by someone I trust.

The Milwaukee paper is now saying the same things...

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/191910991.html

I don't imagine all hope is lost for Creighton but they probably have any uphill climb as this point

[TheAsianSensation]

I'm going to give everyone a fantasy scenario.

Let's say Feinboy over there is right somehow, and lets say they say Creighton is too far away and take Detroit instead of Butler because of the Catholic thing, and it's Richmond instead of Siena:

East: Richmond, G'town, Nova, St Johns, Seton Hall, Provi
West: Marq, DePaul, StL, Detroit, Dayton, X

All of a sudden the MVC keep their 10 teams, and now Duquesne is the closest school in the A-10 to Butler. You can make a play to invite Butler and a 12th team of your choosing in this fantasy.

This fantasy is definitely better than the XDSU fantasy. There's really nothing an Evansville fan would like more than to have Butler in the MVC.

Pick UMKC or Western Illinois as the 12th team (to keep the east/west and public/private balance), and

Kinda late on the reply here, but I just realized....to be honest, I'd rather have a Dakota than WIU or UMKC in this scenario. I don't think the western folk would be happy about this, but I don't see an easy solution for team 12 that keeps all the balance in balance.

I think most would hold their nose to add a Dakota if it meant Butler was coming.

[DoubleJayAlum]

I'm going to give everyone a fantasy scenario.

Let's say Feinboy over there is right somehow, and lets say they say Creighton is too far away and take Detroit instead of Butler because of the Catholic thing, and it's Richmond instead of Siena:

East: Richmond, G'town, Nova, St Johns, Seton Hall, Provi
West: Marq, DePaul, StL, Detroit, Dayton, X

All of a sudden the MVC keep their 10 teams, and now Duquesne is the closest school in the A-10 to Butler. You can make a play to invite Butler and a 12th team of your choosing in this fantasy.

This fantasy is definitely better than the XDSU fantasy. There's really nothing an Evansville fan would like more than to have Butler in the MVC.

Pick UMKC or Western Illinois as the 12th team (to keep the east/west and public/private balance), and

Kinda late on the reply here, but I just realized....to be honest, I'd rather have a Dakota than WIU or UMKC in this scenario. I don't think the western folk would be happy about this, but I don't see an easy solution for team 12 that keeps all the balance in balance.

I think most would hold their nose to add a Dakota if it meant Butler was coming.

I don't think the western schools care about adding eastern schools if they are good basketball programs. For example, I think CU and WSU would be perfectly content with the addition of Butler and Belmont.

This whole thing is a pipe dream though as Butler is absolutely going to the new BE7+ conference.

[rlh04d]

Who knows if any of this is accurate, but it's being reported that UNC has an offer from the Big Ten.

http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2013/2 ... r-virginia

My understanding, as a Florida State alumni who tries to follow ACC news/rumors as much as possible, is that UNC has always been welcome in the B1G. The only reason that the move hasn't happened in the past is that they were considered a package deal with Duke.