Better season - Creighton or Wichita State?

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Re: Better season - Creighton or Wichita State?

Postby horacepinker » March 26th, 2013, 10:37 am

Ron Baker will be on JIm Rome today talking about the Sweet 16.......I wonder when Dougie is going on Rome to talk about their regular season and tournament titles????? I mean they are both equal.....right? :roll:
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Postby jaybydna » March 26th, 2013, 11:10 am

horacepinker wrote:Ron Baker will be on JIm Rome today talking about the Sweet 16.......I wonder when Dougie is going on Rome to talk about their regular season and tournament titles????? I mean they are both equal.....right? :roll:


Oops. Wait for it.......
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Re: Better season - Creighton or Wichita State?

Postby jaybydna » March 26th, 2013, 11:15 am

Oh, I cant wait.

http://jimrome.com/2013/03/15/doug-mcdermott/


Shouldn't have tried to win an argument that no one can win.
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Re: Better season - Creighton or Wichita State?

Postby saluki762 » March 26th, 2013, 11:31 am

Better season = WSU

Better year = Creighton

For my Saluki's, I would much rather get an invitation to the Big East than a S16.
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Re: Better season - Creighton or Wichita State?

Postby kochhead22 » March 26th, 2013, 11:33 am

jaybydna wrote:Oh, I cant wait.

http://jimrome.com/2013/03/15/doug-mcdermott/


Shouldn't have tried to win an argument that no one can win.



I was going to say i'm pretty sure i heard Doug on Rome at some point not to terribly long ago. . . Either way i think both programs have had amazing years.
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Re: Better season - Creighton or Wichita State?

Postby rlh04d » March 26th, 2013, 1:24 pm

cufan_mvcfan wrote:p.s.-im just talking about performance on the court. This Creighton team made the move to Big East possible. That could be a defining accomplishment in CU basketball history, possibly worth more than a S16. time will tell.

This Creighton team didn't make the move to the Big East possible. 14 years of on-court consistency made it possible. One of the bigger average attendances in the NCAA made it possible. Large picture, this team had very little to do with it ... one good year doesn't do much for a program. Consistency does.

And yes, I'd take a move to the Big East over the Sweet 16 any day of the week.

However, anyone arguing that a conference championship beats a Sweet 16 is so biased it honestly makes me laugh to read it. Here's the thing ... Round of 32 doesn't really mean very much. Whether you lose in the 64 or 32, it's essentially the same thing. You start hanging banners with the Sweet 16. A conference championship trumps one win in the NCAA tournament, but not ANY win. Wins are progressively harder in the tournament, and a Sweet 16 bid is worth multiple first round wins. If Wichita wins this next game, awesome, because an Elite 8 bid is worth multiple Sweet 16 bids -- you don't just count wins and go "Yeah, Wichita made the Elite 8 with three wins, but Creighton won 3 NCAA games, too, so it's basically the same thing." But if they don't make it, that Sweet 16 banner is still going in the rafters, and we still had an amazing year. Just as we did in 2006. Just as Creighton did in 1974.
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Re: Better season - Creighton or Wichita State?

Postby rlh04d » March 26th, 2013, 1:30 pm

jaybydna wrote:Oh, I cant wait.

http://jimrome.com/2013/03/15/doug-mcdermott/


Shouldn't have tried to win an argument that no one can win.

McDermott's a national player of the year candidate. He'd be getting national media coverage whether Creighton won the MVC or not.
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Re: Better season - Creighton or Wichita State?

Postby cu8493 » March 26th, 2013, 2:44 pm

Does anyone hang sweet sixteen banners in their arena? (all jokes about CU not needing one aside). Everyone hangs conference championship banners and tournament championship banners. They hang final four banners and of course championship banners. But sweet sixteen banners? Just asking.

Can you name the mid-major sweet sixteen teams from even two years ago who didn't make at least the regional finals? I would give my pinkie toe for an NCAA run, and if the choice was the conference titles or a final four - or even elite 8, I might take those NCAA runs. But between a sweet sixteen and walking away from the MVC having swept the conference and tourney titles, I greatly prefer having taken those trophies with us out the door. :bounce:
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Re: Better season - Creighton or Wichita State?

Postby Kyle » March 26th, 2013, 4:22 pm

UNI has a S16 Banner in the McLeod Center.

And the answer is without a doubt WSU. The NCAA tournament means much much more than the regular season.
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Re: Better season - Creighton or Wichita State?

Postby kochhead22 » March 26th, 2013, 4:23 pm

I know WSU has their sweet 16 banner hanging in Koch. I guess i always figured schools that don't make it there that often usually hang them, schools like kansas, duke etc don't hang them.
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