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Re: Conference Officials plan to visit Belmont Denver & Oral

Postby DoubleJayAlum » April 12th, 2013, 8:05 am

IllinoisState wrote:I'm not optimistic about what is out there. I hope for Denver, New Mexico State, and for us to try and pillage a team from either the A-10, CAA, or Northeast.


With the possible exception of SLU if they get left behind by the Big East (I'll comment more on this below), I don't see the MVC being able to poach anyone from the A10. The A10 has a better TV deal and, even taking this year into account, has more NCAA credits to distribute (those one bid years for the MVC are killers). In fact, I'd go so far as to say that there is a bigger risk that the MVC loses Bradley to the A10 than there is in the A10 losing anyone to the MVC.

With respect to SLU -- they will be going to the Big East in the next few years. I think this is true for several reasons: (1) they present the largest TV market of the remaining catholic schools; (2) They are a Jesuit institution, which will insure them the votes of Marquette, Xavier, Georgetown and Creighton; (3) They would serve as the best travel partner for Creighton and are the most desired among the current western schools in the A10.

As I've said before, the A10 team that gets left out in the cold in all of this is most likely Dayton, especially if the rumors about Xavier attempting to block them are true. The Big East will want to keep an even number of east/west schools, so I predict SLU and either Richmond or VCU (if they want to venture into the world of public schools). Dayton is too far east to have any interest in the MVC.

As to poaching from the CAA or Northeast, two obvious questions arise: (1) who the heck is worth grabbing - ODU, VCU and George Mason have all bailed on the CAA and the Northeast is, well, the Northeast; and (2) whomever you'd covet, the travel is going to make it financially impossible barring some incredible TV deal.
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Re: Conference Officials plan to visit Belmont Denver & Oral

Postby LJay » April 12th, 2013, 8:12 am

Okay, I know CU is heading out the door so who cares what I say (I did go to a Creighton-Bradley baseball game last weekend so pretty sure we're still a Valley school). However, these three schools would IMHO be a nice add to the conference to get to 12. Three nice markets, two on the western side so WSU (and MSU to a lesser extent) isn't so isolated and with a step up in conference you'll no doubt see them committing more resources to athletics. Sounds good to me.

An addition of a Chicago school might work too but the candidates are pretty far down the entertainment options list in Chi-town so may have a harder time garnering interest (can be said for Denver too).
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Re: Conference Officials plan to visit Belmont Denver & Oral

Postby jwa123 » April 12th, 2013, 8:18 am

The earth will rotate on it's axis with or without Wichita State.
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Re: Conference Officials plan to visit Belmont Denver & Oral

Postby TylerDurden » April 12th, 2013, 8:38 am

Chuck A wrote:
Anyone who's read all the articles and info concerning the process would know. It's called reading, research and remembering, much like what college students do, or is that foreign to you?


Again, please stop acting like you know anything about the process and timeline. Your "sources" don't know.
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Re: Conference Officials plan to visit Belmont Denver & Oral

Postby dogdays » April 12th, 2013, 9:14 am

Louisville,UCONN,CINCY and USF arre not going to the Cusa they are in the old big east with Louisville headed to the ACC the next yr.
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Re: Conference Officials plan to visit Belmont Denver & Oral

Postby Baabaabooee » April 12th, 2013, 11:00 am

DU would definately enhance the league academically and would place us in a major market. I think they are more prevalent in Denver than UMKC is in K.C. And they replace a private school with another private.

My concern with New Mexico State is that they might find a better fit down the line. If you bring someone in you want them to stay. If you brought in the 3 teams mentioned you could have to six team divisions for bball.

Belmont has had success but does not have a lot of fan support and competes with Vandy, Tn St, Middle Tenn for attention in Nashville.

West: Oral Roberts, NM St, Denver, Wichita, Drake, UNI
East: Mo St., SIU, IL St., Bradley, Evansville, Indiana State

With Belmont you might come up with some sort of North/South grouping.
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Re: Conference Officials plan to visit Belmont Denver & Oral

Postby Sir Sci » April 12th, 2013, 12:42 pm

Although I'm sure it's possible, I've never heard of a conference splitting into divisions for basketball, only football. If the Valley does add more than one team (which I don't think it will this season), what makes splitting into divisions attractive, or even possible?
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Re: Conference Officials plan to visit Belmont Denver & Oral

Postby lurkingdog » April 12th, 2013, 1:26 pm

A circle jerk thread. How interesting.
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Re: Conference Officials plan to visit Belmont Denver & Oral

Postby Khan4Cats » April 12th, 2013, 2:34 pm

Sir Sci wrote:Although I'm sure it's possible, I've never heard of a conference splitting into divisions for basketball, only football. If the Valley does add more than one team (which I don't think it will this season), what makes splitting into divisions attractive, or even possible?

The MAC Southern and something called the SEC all play in divisions. The B1G does as well informally.
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Re: Conference Officials plan to visit Belmont Denver & Oral

Postby rlh04d » April 12th, 2013, 5:40 pm

jwa123 wrote:The earth will rotate on it's axis with or without Wichita State.

Excellent contribution.

It will without Creighton, as well. But the Valley will be a worse conference.
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