MVC Loses 56% of Top-150 RPI Games

[DoubleJayAlum]

Also, we're ready to talk, as this isn't the first banner.

It may be the first one you've received without breaking any NCAA rules though, assuming, of course, that you didn't violate any rules this time...

WSU's glorious history of cheating is well know to anyone who has ever frequented this board or that has ever done a search for schools that committed violations on the NCAA's site.

If you are going to boast, you've got to tell the whole story.

[Cdizzle]

Also, we're ready to talk, as this isn't the first banner.

It may be the first one you've received without breaking any NCAA rules though, assuming, of course, that you didn't violate any rules this time...

WSU's glorious history of cheating is well know to anyone who has ever frequented this board or that has ever done a search for schools that committed violations on the NCAA's site.

If you are going to boast, you've got to tell the whole story.

For all your digging, you still haven't linked those banners to the incidents you mention. You can keep trying. I know you will. And then you'll still have the gall/ignorance to call WSU and Valley fans "obsessed" with Creighton. Yikes.

[DoubleJayAlum]

Also, we're ready to talk, as this isn't the first banner.

It may be the first one you've received without breaking any NCAA rules though, assuming, of course, that you didn't violate any rules this time...

WSU's glorious history of cheating is well know to anyone who has ever frequented this board or that has ever done a search for schools that committed violations on the NCAA's site.

If you are going to boast, you've got to tell the whole story.

For all your digging, you still haven't linked those banners to the incidents you mention. You can keep trying. I know you will. And then you'll still have the gall/ignorance to call WSU and Valley fans "obsessed" with Creighton. Yikes.

LMAO!!!!

There is no special link necessary, my man! The dates of the violations, and occasionally the identity of the guilty parties, are outlined in each of the multiple of cases brought against WSU. They're self evident; no further linking is necessary!!!!!

Just be happy that the NCAA hasn't fully investigated the claims made by VCU regarding the improper recruitment of a certain star player on last year's Shocker team.

[DoubleJayAlum]

Creighton's invite to the "big boys table" was predominantly based around several factors, and those factors don't come down to a difference of program building between the two schools:

1. Being a Catholic private school
2. The construction of a large arena by the city (Intrust was a mistake for basketball in that it should have been built much bigger)
3. Filling that arena with low ticket prices and an untapped basketball market, with little power conference competition

While Creighton still needed to be good to get invited, it is incorrect to say that the difference between Creighton switching conferences and Wichita State staying in the MVC is that Creighton has a better program. The main differences were religion, being a private school, and having a perfect environment to boast large crowd numbers. None of that comes down to a difference in the basketball programs.

Apparently nobody has told the other Big East schools that Butler isn't Catholic yet. I'm sure the league will expel them at once upon finding out though.

I wonder what WSU's excuse will be when VCU is added in the next round of Big East expansion?

[shoxrox]

So not only are Creighton fans still coming to this board (because the Big East members are treating them like Evansville on their boards), but now they're coming here arguing with WSU fans about Final Four banners?

Why do Creighton fans still come here, and why do they come talking about something their school knows nothing about (NCAA success)?

Creighton fans don't know how to deal with their newfound home. They're like wandering newbs who are trying to get people to pay attention to them. Apparently nobody is as they have now come back to a conference board they are no longer members of.

Talk about big time.

[Born2Shock]

Creighton's invite to the "big boys table" was predominantly based around several factors, and those factors don't come down to a difference of program building between the two schools:

1. Being a Catholic private school
2. The construction of a large arena by the city (Intrust was a mistake for basketball in that it should have been built much bigger)
3. Filling that arena with low ticket prices and an untapped basketball market, with little power conference competition

While Creighton still needed to be good to get invited, it is incorrect to say that the difference between Creighton switching conferences and Wichita State staying in the MVC is that Creighton has a better program. The main differences were religion, being a private school, and having a perfect environment to boast large crowd numbers. None of that comes down to a difference in the basketball programs.

Apparently nobody has told the other Big East schools that Butler isn't Catholic yet. I'm sure the league will expel them at once upon finding out though.

I wonder what WSU's excuse will be when VCU is added in the next round of Big East expansion?

I wonder what Creightons excuse will be when they dont make it past the first weekend...again?

[DoubleJayAlum]

It isn't just about the Final Four, it is about postseason success in general. Creighton may have danced 18 or so odd times, but they've still never won two games in a row in the tournament. Wichita State has done that and more (and not only once or under one coach, but several times in several different decades). While they've never been consistently good over a long period of time they've shown an ability to be great. Creighton simply hasn't, even though they've shown that in the Valley they could consistently win the tournament or get an at-large bid.

Creighton's invite to the "big boys table" was predominantly based around several factors, and those factors don't come down to a difference of program building between the two schools:

1. Being a Catholic private school
2. The construction of a large arena by the city (Intrust was a mistake for basketball in that it should have been built much bigger)
3. Filling that arena with low ticket prices and an untapped basketball market, with little power conference competition

While Creighton still needed to be good to get invited, it is incorrect to say that the difference between Creighton switching conferences and Wichita State staying in the MVC is that Creighton has a better program. The main differences were religion, being a private school, and having a perfect environment to boast large crowd numbers. None of that comes down to a difference in the basketball programs.

Let's be honest. If there is any reason other than the quality of the basketball programs that caused CU to be picked over WSU, it is the fact that WSU's academics are nowhere near the quality of the Big East schools, while Creighton's are right in line.

If WSU wants a legit chance at the next round of Big East expansion, they should take steps to improve their academic reputation so that other Big East schools no longer view them as a diploma mill.

[DoubleJayAlum]

Why do Creighton fans still come here, and why do they come talking about something their school knows nothing about (NCAA success)?

Creighton fans don't know how to deal with their newfound home. They're like wandering newbs who are trying to get people to pay attention to them. Apparently nobody is as they have now come back to a conference board they are no longer members of.

Sometimes in order to fully appreciate where one is, he must look back to where he came from.

I'll miss Bradley. I already miss the SIU of the first part of this century. I'll miss the proximity of Drake and Northern Iowa. I won't miss Shocker fans.

[Born2Shock]

It isn't just about the Final Four, it is about postseason success in general. Creighton may have danced 18 or so odd times, but they've still never won two games in a row in the tournament. Wichita State has done that and more (and not only once or under one coach, but several times in several different decades). While they've never been consistently good over a long period of time they've shown an ability to be great. Creighton simply hasn't, even though they've shown that in the Valley they could consistently win the tournament or get an at-large bid.

Creighton's invite to the "big boys table" was predominantly based around several factors, and those factors don't come down to a difference of program building between the two schools:

1. Being a Catholic private school
2. The construction of a large arena by the city (Intrust was a mistake for basketball in that it should have been built much bigger)
3. Filling that arena with low ticket prices and an untapped basketball market, with little power conference competition

While Creighton still needed to be good to get invited, it is incorrect to say that the difference between Creighton switching conferences and Wichita State staying in the MVC is that Creighton has a better program. The main differences were religion, being a private school, and having a perfect environment to boast large crowd numbers. None of that comes down to a difference in the basketball programs.

Let's be honest. If there is any reason other than the quality of the basketball programs that caused CU to be picked over WSU, it is the fact that WSU's academics are nowhere near the quality of the Big East schools, while Creighton's are right in line.

If WSU wants a legit chance at the next round of Big East expansion, they should take steps to improve their academic reputation so that other Big East schools no longer view them as a diploma mill.

A diploma mill like this? http://espn.go.com/page2/tvlistings/sho ... cript.html

What was it you said about boasting earlier?

[shoxrox]

Why do Creighton fans still come here, and why do they come talking about something their school knows nothing about (NCAA success)?

Creighton fans don't know how to deal with their newfound home. They're like wandering newbs who are trying to get people to pay attention to them. Apparently nobody is as they have now come back to a conference board they are no longer members of.

Sometimes in order to fully appreciate where one is, he must look back to where he came from.

I'll miss Bradley. I already miss the SIU of the first part of this century. I'll miss the proximity of Drake and Northern Iowa. I won't miss Shocker fans.

Apparently, you will miss Shocker fans as here you are, engaging with them, trolling them, talking about them and their university, showing your insecurities about them. You are indeed the king of hypocrisy.

That's why you can't stop coming here and talking about us. You crave attention because nobody else is giving it to you.

Nobody here will miss you or any of your other cronies. Trust me. Of course, that is if you ever leave.