Wichita State #16 in USA Today preseason poll

[MSUDuo]

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Nah, WSU wouldn't be obsessed with CU and their endeavors. .

[TheAsianSensation]

I'm a bit concerned that Wichita, coming off a final four, couldn't get by Gonzaga and VCU in the poll. The Valley's pull isn't quite as strong as we want to believe.

[shocktheheart]

I'm a bit concerned that Wichita, coming off a final four, couldn't get by Gonzaga and VCU in the poll. The Valley's pull isn't quite as strong as we want to believe.

That really concerns you? This is a preseason poll in which in the national coaches eyes WSU is just coming onto the national stage. Gonzaga has been there for over a decade and VCU for the last four or five years.

[TheAsianSensation]

I'm a bit concerned that Wichita, coming off a final four, couldn't get by Gonzaga and VCU in the poll. The Valley's pull isn't quite as strong as we want to believe.

That really concerns you? This is a preseason poll in which in the national coaches eyes WSU is just coming onto the national stage. Gonzaga has been there for over a decade and VCU for the last four or five years.

Ok, Gonzaga I'll maybe give you, but I feel Wichita compares well to VCU and should have the recency bias.

Also, I'm looking more at how conferences are treated than teams. Not thrilled the projected WCC champ and A-10 champ are ahead of the projected MVC champ.

[shocktheheart]

I thought WSU would be anywhere from 15-22 in the first poll. You have to remember that WSU lost Armstead and Hall. They where the "face" of WSU in the medias eyes along with Early.

[Cdizzle]

I'm a bit concerned that Wichita, coming off a final four, couldn't get by Gonzaga and VCU in the poll. The Valley's pull isn't quite as strong as we want to believe.

That really concerns you? This is a preseason poll in which in the national coaches eyes WSU is just coming onto the national stage. Gonzaga has been there for over a decade and VCU for the last four or five years.

Ok, Gonzaga I'll maybe give you, but I feel Wichita compares well to VCU and should have the recency bias.

Also, I'm looking more at how conferences are treated than teams. Not thrilled the projected WCC champ and A-10 champ are ahead of the projected MVC champ.

VCU will always have the east-coast media bias going for them. I also feel that they are deserving of their ranking this year. I think it's a stretch to complain about this ranking much. VCU, Gonzaga, and WSU are not ranked where they are because of conference affiliation, they are ranked there because they are good teams.

[shoxrox]

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Nah, WSU wouldn't be obsessed with CU and their endeavors. .

I'm not the one going on to Big East message boards and acting like they would care about what WSU is doing. By the way, I commented on what a UNI fan stated. Why only the call out to WSU fans? Maybe some insecurity yourself?

And what does it matter? There are CU fans flying over here talking about CU as much as possible. I'm just going with the flow..

But as always, thanks for your input.

[shoxrox]

I'm a bit concerned that Wichita, coming off a final four, couldn't get by Gonzaga and VCU in the poll. The Valley's pull isn't quite as strong as we want to believe.

That really concerns you? This is a preseason poll in which in the national coaches eyes WSU is just coming onto the national stage. Gonzaga has been there for over a decade and VCU for the last four or five years.

Ok, Gonzaga I'll maybe give you, but I feel Wichita compares well to VCU and should have the recency bias.

Also, I'm looking more at how conferences are treated than teams. Not thrilled the projected WCC champ and A-10 champ are ahead of the projected MVC champ.

Dude, it's by 1 and 2 spots. Where did you expect to see WSU after the loss of Hall and Armstead? Top 10?

[TheAsianSensation]

Dude, it's by 1 and 2 spots. Where did you expect to see WSU after the loss of Hall and Armstead? Top 10?

I'd be more into moving the others down than moving WSU up, but fair point.

[MSUDuo]

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Nah, WSU wouldn't be obsessed with CU and their endeavors. .

I'm not the one going on to Big East message boards and acting like they would care about what WSU is doing. By the way, I commented on what a UNI fan stated. Why only the call out to WSU fans? Maybe some insecurity yourself?

And what does it matter? There are CU fans flying over here talking about CU as much as possible. I'm just going with the flow..

But as always, thanks for your input.

I don't care if you quoted Garfield, you're still the one talking about CU as much as they are. Like I said, there is no way that WSU would be obsessed with CU.

No one is forcing you to respond to them. As someone mentioned, a troll can only troll if there is someone to feed the troll. Just ignore them big guy.