ISUr exhibition vs Quincy

[ilstu2013]

Just because he was recruited doesn't mean anything. How long was he recruited? Thousands of kids are approached and recruited and then backed off of. It's who you sign that a coach is accountable for.

Fair enough. Who are the thugs on our team so we know who to keep an eye on. Thanks again!

You tell me. I think that I read somewhere on your Redbird board that it was "Good to see that ISU got rid of guys who didn't have any problems off of the court for guys who committed Class 3 felonies".

That was a tweet from Jordan Threloff, who was one of the several players from last year to leave and transfer elsewhere. Not something posted by a Redbird fan, but tweeted out by a player who left and went elsewhere. So of course he would say that. That tweet implies that Muller got rid of him, so of course he would say that because he has a bias that he wanted to be here, but it seems that Muller didn't really have him in his plans and Threloff left as a result. Threloff now seems to be better off as he got 17 points in the exhibition game for Northern Illinois. It might be smart for you and fans of other teams to not pretend like you know what is going on with other teams because people are so caught up on what is going on with their own team and don't have a clue what is going on in another program and it shows with inaccuracies. Also, Daishon Knight's going to play on Friday, so that shows you how little of an issue it is.

[Wufan]

I think that questioning the new Redbird roster is well within the scope of preseason speculation. Particularly, this year it has been well established that Muller is willing to take recruiting risks. He dismissed some good players (Threloff and Ekey come to mind) and brought in a group of players that can't play…Hawkins is not eligible for the second straight year…after being kicked off of his prep team. McIntosh is not eligible due to his foreign status. Lofton had questionable eligibility, but it looks like he's good now. Knight committed a class III felony. Are any of these kids bad kids? Probably not. Are these kids high risk? Yes. There is a likelihood that Muller is willing to take other risks, and since only two players return from last year's team, I think it is fair to ask if there are any issues with the roster.

[ilstu2013]

I think that questioning the new Redbird roster is well within the scope of preseason speculation. Particularly, this year it has been well established that Muller is willing to take recruiting risks. He dismissed some good players (Threloff and Ekey come to mind) and brought in a group of players that can't play…Hawkins is not eligible for the second straight year…after being kicked off of his prep team. McIntosh is not eligible due to his foreign status. Lofton had questionable eligibility, but it looks like he's good now. Knight committed a class III felony. Are any of these kids bad kids? Probably not. Are these kids high risk? Yes. There is a likelihood that Muller is willing to take other risks, and since only two players return from last year's team, I think it is fair to ask if there are any issues with the roster.

I think a lot of Redbird fans would contend that some of the players Muller "let go" are not that great. The only big loss I see is Johnny Hill. Honestly, Threloff never really did anything for us and it seemed like Ekey was in his prime for us his freshman year. I don't think Muller was really going to ever play Threloff much at all, so Threloff is in a better situation now and he scored 17 points in an exhibition game. You could argue Ekey is a loss, probably the second biggest loss out of the group that left, but I really only see Johnny Hill as being a big loss. For Ekey being a junior that had played a lot in previous years compared to Hill being a sophomore that played sparingly the year before, Hill made much more of an impact last year. He was the only one that had a major role on last year's team and that I feel could have made an impact this season. I feel like it's a given you have to take risks when you're bringing that many new players, so that's not much of a surprise to me. When you need to recruit that many guys In order to fill the roster to replace all the departed players, risks are going to need to be taken.

[jigga]

Zach Lofton had 19pts in 18minutes...
those are great numbers.

Hope has the same kinda efficiency against VCU.

[2livewu]

Zach Lofton had 19pts in 18minutes...
those are great numbers.

Hope has the same kinda efficiency against VCU.

I hope so too, but you might want to temper your enthusiasm just a shade as Quincy ME does not equal VCU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zkz4sz-cfk vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovdKAAEIxc8

VCU will defend you. Just think old SIU, a little quicker but less physical. Good luck. We need some non con pelts.

[jigga]

I hope so too, but you might want to temper your enthusiasm just a shade as Quincy ME does not equal VCU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zkz4sz-cfk vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovdKAAEIxc8

VCU will defend you. Just think old SIU, a little quicker but less physical. Good luck. We need some non con pelts.

VCU and Quincy are definitely 2 totally different programs.

VCU is predicted to beat ISU by more than 30 points.

I just "hope" he can have a similar game efficiency-wise.

Thanks for the well wishes.

If we can limit turnovers against the press, rebound, and protect the paint we may have a chance.

[Black]

The likely bottom or second to the bottom team in the Valley has a chance beating a top 15 team on the road?

If that happens, then we might be a top 5 conference this year.


Unfortunately, I predict VCU by 25+

[Wufan]

The likely bottom or second to the bottom team in the Valley has a chance beating a top 15 team on the road?

If that happens, then we might be a top 5 conference this year.


Unfortunately, I predict VCU by 25+

Ill St should struggle, but the bottom line is that I have only seen one player on their roster play a game. They might have a dozen studs that I just haven't witnessed yet.

[Redbird Recon]

The likely bottom or second to the bottom team in the Valley has a chance beating a top 15 team on the road?

We're picked 7th. I'm not sure 'likely' is the right word.

[AndShock]

The likely bottom or second to the bottom team in the Valley has a chance beating a top 15 team on the road?

We're picked 7th. I'm not sure 'likely' is the right word.

How did being picked 2nd go last year?