William & Mary at Wichita State

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Re: William & Mary at Wichita State

Postby Shockerfan13 » November 14th, 2013, 10:22 pm

I think the Shox just weren't well prepared to play against William and Mary. That's on the coaches. Also the Princeton style offense has always caused Gregg Marshall teams a lot of headaches (see Air Force last year). With the new rule changes and so many fouls called as players drive to the basket this year it is probably a great offense to run. Hard to defend that effectively this year.

I'm not too worried yet. Still some work to do, but you can say that about everyone this time of year.

It says a lot about this teams potential when the coaches and fans are upset with a 17pt win.
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Re: William & Mary at Wichita State

Postby mvcfan31 » November 14th, 2013, 10:25 pm

Congrats Shocks. Way to stomp on their throat in the second half.

Keep it up.
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Re: William & Mary at Wichita State

Postby Shocker_Phi » November 15th, 2013, 12:14 am

If I remember right, Cleanthony took charge and scored all of his 14 points in the last 5 minutes of the 1st half.

Not sure where he went in the 2nd half, but if he would have continued that output, you would have seen a 25 pt win or more.
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Re: William & Mary at Wichita State

Postby Aargh » November 15th, 2013, 8:22 am

iSASO wrote:W&M might finish 2nd in the MVC.

I don't think so, but if the Shox keep playing the way they did last night, they might. And that's taking into consideration that Indy State gave up 63 in a half.

Coleby might have gotten 10 points, but it was mostly off of lobs and stuffs. the guys playing post (Coleby, Lufile, and Carter) had a combined 1 rebound between them in the first half. It gets worse. When they were getting subbed out and getting some "learning opportunities" before going to the far end of the bench, it appeard to be for their play in the offensive end of the court.

Marshall said he tried to make modifications to his basic man D for the Princeton offense that W & M runs. He thinks he may have over-complicated things and probably would have been better off just sticking with a basic man D.

Trying to adapt to some adjustments and then getting box out position nd going for boards may have had the post players over-thinking everything. The post play and rebounding will get better, but that's like saying a college high jumper who misses at 5' will get better. There's a lot of room for "better".
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Re: William & Mary at Wichita State

Postby uniftw » November 15th, 2013, 9:07 am

iSASO wrote:W&M might finish 2nd in the MVC.

So WSU is at least 20 points better than every MVC team?
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Re: William & Mary at Wichita State

Postby shocktheheart » November 15th, 2013, 9:12 am

uniftw wrote:
iSASO wrote:W&M might finish 2nd in the MVC.

So WSU is at least 20 points better than every MVC team?


Watched last nights game and W&M would finish in the top half, don't think they are second place team. I would say four to five.
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Re: William & Mary at Wichita State

Postby BEARZ77 » November 15th, 2013, 9:39 am

For what it's worth the two publications I looked had had them picked 7th and 8th out of 9 teams in a very much weakened Colonial . Disrespect for rest of Valley duly noted. :roll:
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Re: William & Mary at Wichita State

Postby uniftw » November 15th, 2013, 9:50 am

Realtimerpi has WM projected at 12-16. Finished last year at 12-17 (RPI 270), year before at 5-26 (RPI 298), and year before that 9-22 (RPI 228)....

1 winning season since 2002-2003 (as far back as realtimerpi goes) and average W/L of about 8-22ish and RPI average over 265


Yep...Clearly a top half MVC team
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Re: William & Mary at Wichita State

Postby BEARZ77 » November 15th, 2013, 9:55 am

Picked 5th in their own conference preseason media day. But hey, preseason polls often mean little.
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Re: William & Mary at Wichita State

Postby shocktheheart » November 15th, 2013, 10:10 am

uniftw wrote:Realtimerpi has WM projected at 12-16. Finished last year at 12-17 (RPI 270), year before at 5-26 (RPI 298), and year before that 9-22 (RPI 228)....

1 winning season since 2002-2003 (as far back as realtimerpi goes) and average W/L of about 8-22ish and RPI average over 265


Yep...Clearly a top half MVC team


So I guess we can ship the trophy to Wichita since we are going off projections? I watched them play last night, did you?
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