If Wichita goes undefeated do they get a #1 seed

[GoAcesgo]

Have nothing against anybody from WSU, just feel they are not a number 1 seed and feel they will get beat in the second round, this was what I said at the beginning before I was slammed for being an Aces fan, I will be rooting for whoever represents the MVC in the big dance....by the way if you look at my previous statements I knew the Aces were going to have a rough year I think the next 2 years we will be tougher to beat, is what I have said from the beginning.

[Aces1982]

WUFan, please show me the post I was cocky in? And don't take anything out of context...post the entire message. I feel you won't find one.

[rlh04d]

Have nothing against anybody from WSU, just feel they are not a number 1 seed and feel they will get beat in the second round, this was what I said at the beginning before I was slammed for being an Aces fan, I will be rooting for whoever represents the MVC in the big dance....by the way if you look at my previous statements I knew the Aces were going to have a rough year I think the next 2 years we will be tougher to beat, is what I have said from the beginning.

I slammed you for dismissing a NCAA tournament win when, as an Aces fan, you should appreciate one win as much as anyone. I'm also slamming you for making pointless quasi-insults based on some vague idea of keeping egos down without any actual discussion regarding strengths or weaknesses.

Is WSU a one seed? I have no idea. Is a one seed supposed to be the four best teams, or the four teams with the best resumes? Either way, I don't know if WSU is one of the four best teams in the country. I do know that they were one of the four best last year, and all they've done since then is win 14 straight. I don't understand your point on how it would be worse for WSU to have a higher seed. If you're cheering for MVC teams, you should be hoping we get the best seed possible. The top seeds have the easiest path to the Final Four. You play a 16 seed and then likely a 9/8 seed to make the Sweet 16. We just proved last year that it's far from a guarantee to make the Sweet 16 from that spot, but it is unquestionably easier. Playing a 9/8 with this team is simply easier than playing a 1 seed as we did then.

But no WSU fan should be taking even a single NCAA tournament win for granted. And certainly no Evansville team should be dismissing any tournament wins.

If you'd like to discuss drawbacks to WSU's team that might hurt them in the tournament, by all means. But otherwise you're not contributing anything other than a pointless prediction based on nothing.

[purple&orange]

To be honest I'm torn on this. At first I was in the yes camp, because Wichita has some solid wins, was ranked fairly highly after finishing last season at the Final Four, and is believed by some to be more talented than that team. We've also seen #1 seeds from non-BCS leagues, with undefeated St. Joe's in 04, Memphis in 08 (oh wait, Cal coached that team so it means the NCAA says it didn't happen), and Gonzaga last year.

My biggest concern at the beginning of this new year is how many of the potential #1 seeds are located. That is not to say that a team from the east coast can't be sent out West, etc, however my opinion is that Arizona out West, and Syracuse in the East have positioned themselves at this point to be as big as a favorite as one can be come early January to be on the top line in the West and East respectively.

That leaves two regions, South and Midwest. Both the Big Ten (Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan State) and Big XII (Oklahoma State, Iowa State, Kansas, Baylor) have done the work in the non-conference to rely on the strength of their leagues to help bolster the case if they win those leagues outright/make a run in the league tournament to claim the top line in the Midwest (Big Ten) and South (Big XII). The hope there is for those squads to drop a road game or two and beat up on each other a little and not have someone run away from the others. Say what you will about how good/deserving Gonzaga was last season, but with the lack of good resumes anywhere near the West Coast, it was a logical fit to put them there.

The good news is that being a #1 seed is nothing more than a great accomplishment on a fantastic regular season. This group of Shockers certainly has every reason to believe in themselves no matter the seed line they are placed on, nor the name on the front of the jersey they see as they step on the floor. I think the bigger goal is not to be shipped out East if Syracuse gets to play the regional in NYC at Madison Square Garden.

Having 2, probably 3 matchups with Creighton if they were still here could have been the boost Wichita needed to bolster that resume sheet the NCAA uses. At the end of the day, Wichita will be prepared and a feared opponent to anyone they should meet come March and riding that bandwagon for a couple weeks was quite the joyride, yes, even for this Evansville fan.

[GoAcesgo]

Have nothing against anybody from WSU, just feel they are not a number 1 seed and feel they will get beat in the second round, this was what I said at the beginning before I was slammed for being an Aces fan, I will be rooting for whoever represents the MVC in the big dance....by the way if you look at my previous statements I knew the Aces were going to have a rough year I think the next 2 years we will be tougher to beat, is what I have said from the beginning.

I slammed you for dismissing a NCAA tournament win when, as an Aces fan, you should appreciate one win as much as anyone. I'm also slamming you for making pointless quasi-insults based on some vague idea of keeping egos down without any actual discussion regarding strengths or weaknesses.

Is WSU a one seed? I have no idea. Is a one seed supposed to be the four best teams, or the four teams with the best resumes? Either way, I don't know if WSU is one of the four best teams in the country. I do know that they were one of the four best last year, and all they've done since then is win 14 straight. I don't understand your point on how it would be worse for WSU to have a higher seed. If you're cheering for MVC teams, you should be hoping we get the best seed possible. The top seeds have the easiest path to the Final Four. You play a 16 seed and then likely a 9/8 seed to make the Sweet 16. We just proved last year that it's far from a guarantee to make the Sweet 16 from that spot, but it is unquestionably easier. Playing a 9/8 with this team is simply easier than playing a 1 seed as we did then.

But no WSU fan should be taking even a single NCAA tournament win for granted. And certainly no Evansville team should be dismissing any tournament wins.

If you'd like to discuss drawbacks to WSU's team that might hurt them in the tournament, by all means. But otherwise you're not contributing anything other than a pointless prediction based on nothing.

Ok weakness right now for #1 seed....who have you beat according to RPI your best win is over BYU, with no other valley team ranked in the top 25 you could go undefeated and maintain a top 10 ranking but I don,t believe your schedule is that tough, yes you have won them all but when Saint Louis and a 7 - 7 BYU are you best wins to me that is a glaring weakness...there you go.

[Wufan]

WUFan, please show me the post I was cocky in? And don't take anything out of context...post the entire message. I feel you won't find one.

I must have confused you with a different Aces fan. My apology!

[Snaggletooth]

yes you have won them all but when Saint Louis and a 7 - 7 BYU are you best wins to me that is a glaring weakness...there you go.

I''m assuming you saying the Shocks due to their schedule won't be prepared for NCAA. See you forget, WSU have a majority of their starters who were significant contributors on their final 4 team - they understant what it going to take, the mental toughness and preparation.

Now if your argument is WSU schedule is going to hurt them as far as seeding - well that is probably true because the MVC sucked it up in non-conference and will not help WSU resume. As far as non-conference schedule - it was a pretty good schedule on paper, with some significant away and neutral site games. It remains to be seen how it all will pan out - but WSU did their part and won.

[rlh04d]

Ok weakness right now for #1 seed....who have you beat according to RPI your best win is over BYU, with no other valley team ranked in the top 25 you could go undefeated and maintain a top 10 ranking but I don,t believe your schedule is that tough, yes you have won them all but when Saint Louis and a 7 - 7 BYU are you best wins to me that is a glaring weakness...there you go.

How is that a weakness with our team? That's a weakness with our resume. And that's a weakness that you, as a fan of a consistently underperforming, weak MVC team are directly responsible for.

We're not less likely to win in the tournament because we have less great wins. We are less likely to get a #1 seed. Our schedule is significantly more difficult this year than last year, when we did make the Final four, and we're performing better against it. Going into the conference season, we had as many wins against teams over .500 as MoSt, Drake, and UNI combined, and nearly as many top 100 wins as the rest of the Valley combined.

We have the second toughest schedule in the conference, with 5-6 top 100 RPI wins so far, depending on where ORU ends up day to day.

When I said discuss your perceived weaknesses, I meant actual reasons you believe we might lose. We can't do anything about our schedule.

[Ricardo del Rio]

I wish all the MVC teams the best in the tourney, but I feel Wich St. if and when they get the high seed could be in for a tough second round game against a BCS school.

I detect a certain level of resentment and bitterness. A little shrill.

I imagine it is hard to cheer for a doggy @ss team, year after year.

Wait! I remember the Shockers in the 90s. No imagination required.

At least, the Shockers might have an opportunity for a tough, second round game against a BCS team.

There are some teams and I am not naming names, that have zero opportunity for a tough, second round game against a BCS team.

[Snaggletooth]

There are some teams and I am not naming names, that have zero opportunity for a tough, second round game against a BCS team.

Creighton?