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Re: #5 WSU vs Bradley

Postby Cdizzle » January 15th, 2014, 11:17 am

Aces1982 wrote:I would choose Lemon, I would guess most others would too


Seriously? Alright, man. You really hurt your credibility as talent evaluator with this kind of stuff though.
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Re: #5 WSU vs Bradley

Postby Play Angry » January 15th, 2014, 11:24 am

Trolling so hard.

The only stat provided that favored Lemon is PPG. Ignoring literally every other category (assists, A/TO ratio, rebounding, FG%, 3FG%, FT%, efficiency on a per minute basis, etc.) and then acting like your position is the obvious majority viewpoint does not make it so.

Such silliness, but typical.
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Re: #5 WSU vs Bradley

Postby shocktheheart » January 15th, 2014, 11:28 am

Aces1982 wrote:
Player13 wrote:No, I quoted exactly what you typed, in the context it was written in. You keep speaking for other people, when nobody else has spoken.

Reading comprehension indeed is a tricky thing.



Except you left off the biggest part....based on the stats provided. But don't let that get in the way of your post. The whole, picking Lemon over FVV was based on stats given.

I will say it one more time for you and then I am done with this topic.

Based on the stats that were provided. I would choose Lemon, I would guess most others would too without watching either playing. BUT having watching them then I would take FVV. I hope you and all your Wichita cronies can understand this.


Why would you pick Lemon and why would the majority of people? Third time I have asked to explain your stance.
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Re: #5 WSU vs Bradley

Postby Aces1982 » January 15th, 2014, 12:01 pm

shocktheheart wrote:
Aces1982 wrote:
Player13 wrote:No, I quoted exactly what you typed, in the context it was written in. You keep speaking for other people, when nobody else has spoken.

Reading comprehension indeed is a tricky thing.



Except you left off the biggest part....based on the stats provided. But don't let that get in the way of your post. The whole, picking Lemon over FVV was based on stats given.

I will say it one more time for you and then I am done with this topic.

Based on the stats that were provided. I would choose Lemon, I would guess most others would too without watching either playing. BUT having watching them then I would take FVV. I hope you and all your Wichita cronies can understand this.


Why would you pick Lemon and why would the majority of people? Third time I have asked to explain your stance.


Based on the stats provided by another Shocker fan. And my original comment said a blind resume, Lemon would be the choice.

If I had not seen either player play and I was given these stats. I would take Lemon. My reason you asked, my reason would be I like Lemons stats better. Again, we are assuming I have never seen either play.

Scoring: #4. Lemon 17.1, FVV not in top 15
Assists: #1. FVV 5.4, Lemon #5 3.9
FT%: #7 FVV .829
Steals: #3 Lemon 2.1, FVV #4 1.8
3PT%: #4 FVV .429, Lemon not in top 10
A/TO: #1 FVV 4.6, Lemon not in top 10
Minutes Played: #2 Lemon 33.4, FVV #3 32.6
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Re: #5 WSU vs Bradley

Postby Cdizzle » January 15th, 2014, 12:21 pm

Aces1982 wrote:
shocktheheart wrote:
Aces1982 wrote:Except you left off the biggest part....based on the stats provided. But don't let that get in the way of your post. The whole, picking Lemon over FVV was based on stats given.

I will say it one more time for you and then I am done with this topic.

Based on the stats that were provided. I would choose Lemon, I would guess most others would too without watching either playing. BUT having watching them then I would take FVV. I hope you and all your Wichita cronies can understand this.


Why would you pick Lemon and why would the majority of people? Third time I have asked to explain your stance.


Based on the stats provided by another Shocker fan. And my original comment said a blind resume, Lemon would be the choice.

If I had not seen either player play and I was given these stats. I would take Lemon. My reason you asked, my reason would be I like Lemons stats better. Again, we are assuming I have never seen either play.

Scoring: #4. Lemon 17.1, FVV not in top 15
Assists: #1. FVV 5.4, Lemon #5 3.9
FT%: #7 FVV .829
Steals: #3 Lemon 2.1, FVV #4 1.8
3PT%: #4 FVV .429, Lemon not in top 10
A/TO: #1 FVV 4.6, Lemon not in top 10
Minutes Played: #2 Lemon 33.4, FVV #3 32.6


Are you.....Marty Simmons? Might explain some things.
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Re: #5 WSU vs Bradley

Postby shocktheheart » January 15th, 2014, 12:27 pm

Player13 wrote:No, I quoted exactly what you typed, in the context it was written in. You keep speaking for other people, when nobody else has spoken.

Reading comprehension indeed is a tricky thing.



Except you left off the biggest part....based on the stats provided. But don't let that get in the way of your post. The whole, picking Lemon over FVV was based on stats given.

I will say it one more time for you and then I am done with this topic.

Based on the stats that were provided. I would choose Lemon, I would guess most others would too without watching either playing. BUT having watching them then I would take FVV. I hope you and all your Wichita cronies can understand this.[/quote]

Why would you pick Lemon and why would the majority of people? Third time I have asked to explain your stance.[/quote]

Based on the stats provided by another Shocker fan. And my original comment said a blind resume, Lemon would be the choice.

If I had not seen either player play and I was given these stats. I would take Lemon. My reason you asked, my reason would be I like Lemons stats better. Again, we are assuming I have never seen either play.

Scoring: #4. Lemon 17.1, FVV not in top 15
Assists: #1. FVV 5.4, Lemon #5 3.9
FT%: #7 FVV .829
Steals: #3 Lemon 2.1, FVV #4 1.8
3PT%: #4 FVV .429, Lemon not in top 10
A/TO: #1 FVV 4.6, Lemon not in top 10
Minutes Played: #2 Lemon 33.4, FVV #3 32.6[/quote]

I still don't get why you like Lemon better. Is it just the scoring? Other stats they are similar or FVV has a very big lead in.
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Re: #5 WSU vs Bradley

Postby Player13 » January 15th, 2014, 1:06 pm

I still don't get why you like Lemon better. Is it just the scoring? Other stats they are similar or FVV has a very big lead in.


The only reason I could come up with was that FVV plays for WSU and Lemon does not. I'm guessing that's probably one of the only reasons why he entered the debate. I would expect this kind of stuff from immature 20 year old college students but not from a 50+ year old man. Pretty sad considering the age alone.

It's also no wonder he purposely left out a key stat like FG%. Lemon shoots way more shots to get his points. FVV stays within the offense and is more efficient. But I guess that stat just isn't important enough for all of us "blinders" out here.
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Re: #5 WSU vs Bradley

Postby Bear4Life » January 15th, 2014, 1:10 pm

Player13 wrote:
I still don't get why you like Lemon better. Is it just the scoring? Other stats they are similar or FVV has a very big lead in.


The only reason I could come up with was that FVV plays for WSU and Lemon does not. I'm guessing that's probably one of the only reasons why he entered the debate. I would expect this kind of stuff from immature 20 year old college students but not from a 50+ year old man. Pretty sad considering the age alone.

It's also no wonder he purposely left out a key stat like FG%. Lemon shoots way more shots to get his points. FVV stays within the offense and is more efficient. But I guess that stat just isn't important enough for all of us "blinders" out here.


I agree that I would rather have FVV, but their situations and responsibilities are very different...I'm not sure if relied on as heavily as Lemon, and targeted by defenses as heavily, that FVV would be able to put up the points Lemon does. Could also argue Lemon on WSU would be a different player too...I could be wrong though, and we will never really know. I think in the end these are both great players...1 is just on a great team as well.
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Re: #5 WSU vs Bradley

Postby Aces1982 » January 15th, 2014, 1:12 pm

Player13 wrote:
I still don't get why you like Lemon better. Is it just the scoring? Other stats they are similar or FVV has a very big lead in.


The only reason I could come up with was that FVV plays for WSU and Lemon does not. I'm guessing that's probably one of the only reasons why he entered the debate. I would expect this kind of stuff from immature 20 year old college students but not from a 50+ year old man. Pretty sad considering the age alone.

It's also no wonder he purposely left out a key stat like FG%. Lemon shoots way more shots to get his points. FVV stays within the offense and is more efficient. But I guess that stat just isn't important enough for all of us "blinders" out here.



I left no stat off. The stats came from a Wichita fan. Can you not understand this????

You truly are unbelievable.
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Re: #5 WSU vs Bradley

Postby shocktheheart » January 15th, 2014, 1:14 pm

Player13 wrote:
I still don't get why you like Lemon better. Is it just the scoring? Other stats they are similar or FVV has a very big lead in.


The only reason I could come up with was that FVV plays for WSU and Lemon does not. I'm guessing that's probably one of the only reasons why he entered the debate. I would expect this kind of stuff from immature 20 year old college students but not from a 50+ year old man. Pretty sad considering the age alone.

It's also no wonder he purposely left out a key stat like FG%. Lemon shoots way more shots to get his points. FVV stays within the offense and is more efficient. But I guess that stat just isn't important enough for all of us "blinders" out here.


I posted the stats. I only posted stats that either player was in the top 10 in. After doing more research and watching the game last night, I figured that the FG% would be a factor. I know the reason he likes Lemon more than FVV, I just want him to admit it. It would be nice to have debates back and forth without immature hatred getting in the way of being reasonable.
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