2013-2014 Bracketology thread

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Re: 2013-2014 Bracketology thread

Postby MSUDuo » February 6th, 2014, 3:40 pm

LanceShock wrote:
MSUDuo wrote:Get a 1 seed. Become the first 1 seed to lose to a 16 seed.

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

:Cheers:

Nothing would say the Valley sucks like WSU going undefeated in the Valley and then losing to a 16 seed.


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Re: 2013-2014 Bracketology thread

Postby shocktheheart » February 6th, 2014, 3:46 pm

MSUDuo wrote:Get a 1 seed. Become the first 1 seed to lose to a 16 seed.

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

:Cheers:


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Re: 2013-2014 Bracketology thread

Postby TheAsianSensation » February 6th, 2014, 4:16 pm

I know it's just joking, but the 16 seeds this year will be awful. And probably the 15s too. There are some years where you'll run into a competent 15 seed; not this year.
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Re: 2013-2014 Bracketology thread

Postby Wufan » February 6th, 2014, 5:49 pm

TheAsianSensation wrote:Update: 1 line stays the same. But if I'm Wichita, I'm starting to worry about SDSU. They're assembling a quality resume, and WSU can't stay above them with a single loss if SDSU keeps winning.

Head to head with SDSU:

Road/neutral record: 10-0 vs. 10-0 - draw
Loss: SDSU lost to Arizona at home; Wichita no losses - advantage Wichita
Signature win: SDSU @ Kansas vs. Wichita @ St Louis - advantage SDSU
Vs. RPI Top 50: SDSU 2-1, WIchita 3-0 - advantage Wichita, although SDSU has 2 signature wins (N-Creighton as well) while Tennessee and N-BYU are a tier down. So you could argue this is even.
Vs. RPI Top 100: SDSU 6-1, Wichita 6-0 - draw, considering the loss is Arizona. SDSU's 51-100 wins are a sweep of Boise, Washington, and N-Marquette, which you could say is close to even with than a sweep of Indiana St and @Missouri St.
Cupcake wins: Wichita 5, SDSU 6 - draw
Vs. RPI 101-125: Wichita 8-0, SDSU 2-0 - big advantage Wichita, but the committee tends to lean towards marginalizing these wins. Still, a significant part of the story if the record vs. Top 100 is relatively even.
non-con SoS: Wichita 41, SDSU 67 - small advantage Wichita
overall SoS: Wichita 81, SDSU 87 - basically even, but I expect SDSU to slowly overtake Wichita here
average RPI win: Wichita 141, SDSU 155 - small advantage Wichita, but again, SDSU has a better schedule remaining to improve this stat
remaining quality win chances: Wichita is out; SDSU has a home-and-home with New Mexico in its hip pocket. Advantage SDSU. This is a big one: SDSU has 2 more Top 50 win chances in the hopper.

Summary - SDSU is going to hop Wichita with a single Wichita loss. And the committee is human, so the "only 1 mid major can be a 1 seed!" storyline could be in play.


That's a good summary, and a one loss SDSU versus a no loss WSU would give the committee quite the conundrum. However, it won't be in a vacuum. I anticipate that if WSU and SDSU finish w/o a loss, that Syracuse, Florida, MSU, and KU will have several additional losses. Predicting one seeds with incomplete resumes is bound to make you look like a fool, which is why I don't do bracketology. Too many more data points need to be collected.
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Re: 2013-2014 Bracketology thread

Postby rlh04d » February 6th, 2014, 9:52 pm

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rlh04d wrote:I gave up on any hope of WSU getting a 1 seed with even one loss a long time ago.

It's undefeated or bust.


I don't agree with this undefeated or bust statement. A 2 or 3 seed with one loss would not seem like a bust to me.

You literally had to delete the statement I made about a 2 or 3 seed being an incredible achievement to quote this segment.

Not sure why you would do that or what your point with this response was.

rlh04d wrote:I'm very confident in a top three seed either way at this point, though, so if we don't get a one seed, that's still going to be an incredible position.
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Re: 2013-2014 Bracketology thread

Postby rlh04d » February 6th, 2014, 9:54 pm

LanceShock wrote:
MSUDuo wrote:Get a 1 seed. Become the first 1 seed to lose to a 16 seed.

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

:Cheers:

Nothing would say the Valley sucks like WSU going undefeated in the Valley and then losing to a 16 seed.

And guarantee that the Valley never gets another one seed.
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Re: 2013-2014 Bracketology thread

Postby Play Angry » February 6th, 2014, 10:20 pm

Pretty cute that a mod openly roots against WSU in OOC games on here.
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Re: 2013-2014 Bracketology thread

Postby agrinut » February 6th, 2014, 10:28 pm

Play Angry wrote:Pretty cute that a mod openly roots against WSU in OOC games on here.

Pretty cute that you are offended by it.
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Re: 2013-2014 Bracketology thread

Postby Play Angry » February 6th, 2014, 10:29 pm

agrinut wrote:
Play Angry wrote:Pretty cute that a mod openly roots against WSU in OOC games on here.

Pretty cute that you are offended by it.


Not offended. Just pointing out the silliness on a board that has a history of frequently censoring WSU posters like Coldblooded for, ummmmm, trolling other MVC teams.
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Re: 2013-2014 Bracketology thread

Postby MSUDuo » February 6th, 2014, 11:16 pm

Play Angry wrote:
agrinut wrote:
Play Angry wrote:Pretty cute that a mod openly roots against WSU in OOC games on here.

Pretty cute that you are offended by it.


Not offended. Just pointing out the silliness on a board that has a history of frequently censoring WSU posters like Coldblooded for, ummmmm, trolling other MVC teams.



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