MSU @ SIU, 2/8, 6pm, ESPN3

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Re: MSU @ SIU, 2/8, 6pm, ESPN3

Postby mvcfan » February 8th, 2014, 10:11 pm

ACECARD wrote:
usmcsaluki wrote:SIU with an 18 point blowout win over Missouri State; our program has done a 180 recently, and looks incredible for the next few years with all these young players. Anthony Beane is playing like a POY candidate, now averaging 24 a game over his last four games.

Looking forward to Wichita on Tuesday!!!

Why would anyone look forward to playing WSU? They are too good.


Thank you ACECARD. My antennae is out and I sense a lack of sincerity.
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Postby Bradleyfan1 » February 8th, 2014, 11:26 pm

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Re: MSU @ SIU, 2/8, 6pm, ESPN3

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Re: MSU @ SIU, 2/8, 6pm, ESPN3

Postby DUShock » February 9th, 2014, 7:24 am

I said it then and I continue to believe it now, MSU set the program back a decade when they fired Barry.

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Re: MSU @ SIU, 2/8, 6pm, ESPN3

Postby agrinut » February 9th, 2014, 10:34 am

DUShock wrote:I said it then and I continue to believe it now, MSU set the program back a decade when they fired Barry.

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What? In what way? His recruiting had bottomed out. He had began to lie to the media in hopes of keeping the attention off of his losing team. He had alienated much of the fan base with his cheesey one liners and continual mockery of the university. I hope Hinson does well at SIU, as long as he is there the will be good and never great.
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Re: MSU @ SIU, 2/8, 6pm, ESPN3

Postby Play Angry » February 9th, 2014, 12:15 pm

I think both MSU and SIU are probably pleased with the progress under their current hires.

I expect MSU to be, at worst, an NIT quality team next year with the trendline pointed decidedly up in the near term. They were looking at an NIT bid this season if key injuries had not bit them.

Hinson was the absolute perfect hire to arrest SIU's nosedive, clean out the barn, and restore respectability in Carbondale.
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Re: MSU @ SIU, 2/8, 6pm, ESPN3

Postby bleach » February 9th, 2014, 1:21 pm

DUShock wrote:I said it then and I continue to believe it now, MSU set the program back a decade when they fired Barry.

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Then you would have been wrong then and are now.
The Bears have won ONE regular season championship. When did that happen? The program is now stocking up some real nice young talent to build a long term program from. You may think we were there with Barry but when he left we were getting pretty bad.
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Re: MSU @ SIU, 2/8, 6pm, ESPN3

Postby DUShock » February 10th, 2014, 10:34 pm

bleach wrote:
DUShock wrote:I said it then and I continue to believe it now, MSU set the program back a decade when they fired Barry.

Go Valley!

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Then you would have been wrong then and are now.
The Bears have won ONE regular season championship. When did that happen? The program is now stocking up some real nice young talent to build a long term program from. You may think we were there with Barry but when he left we were getting pretty bad.


Alford 1995-1999 4 seasons 78-48 62%
Hinson 1999-2008 9 seasons 169-117 69%
Martin 2008-2011 3 seasons 61-41 67%
Lusk 2011-2012 2 seasons (excludes 2013-14) 27-38 -41% (that's minus forty one percent)

Alford's 4 seasons vs Hinson's Last 4 winning percentages:
95-96 57% 04-05 59%
96-97 73% 05-06 71%
97-98 50% 06-07 67%
98-99 67% (lost ncaa regional final) 07-08 52%

Alford's career winning percentage 62% vs Hinson's last 4 is 61%

Just my take.
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Re: MSU @ SIU, 2/8, 6pm, ESPN3

Postby saluki762 » February 11th, 2014, 7:46 am

MSU fans are IMHO too harsh on Barry Hinson. That doesn't mean it wasn't time for MSU to move on from BH though.
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Re: MSU @ SIU, 2/8, 6pm, ESPN3

Postby DUShock » February 11th, 2014, 9:20 am

saluki762 wrote:MSU fans are IMHO too harsh on Barry Hinson. That doesn't mean it wasn't time for MSU to move on from BH though.
Spot on, however the MSU crowd fails to acknowledge anything positive or good regarding BH. If it had been something along the lines of "He had a respectable run but nearly a decade without a return to the Dance it was time to part ways" I could understand. However, they carry on like he was a sub-500 coach who never put the program in position to be a winner. This simply isn't the case and in the 2005-06 season Barry was screwed and Coach Martin only achieved NIT status, the same as Barry.

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