Article: A10 should look at adding Wichita St

[jwa123]

MissouriValleyUnite, you state a lot of things as fact when to me they look more like your opinion. Do you any credible evidence to back up what you state in your long post?

[Fargobison]

Again...let it be known/said.


NDSU is going nowhere without SDSU for the foreseeable future.

When they moved from D2 to D1 they did it as a all or nothing deal. You couldn't have one with out the other...and that isn't about to change.

We aren't tied to SDSU. We are stronger together though and we will help each other, we have multiple times in the past in regards to conference realignment. That said the only way we split is if NDSU goes FBS.

I've heard from media people in Fargo that a certain group of MVC schools will not support NDSU.

[Mike]

I don't know whether WSU should or shouldn't leave the MVC. Those decisions are for someone at a higher pay grade. But, as to why they would leave, it's clear . . . . . . more $$, more exposure, better competition, more relevance, etc. Rlho4d has said that in several different ways and he's right. Yes, WSU has competed at the highest level this year while a member of the MVC as someone pointed out. But that "highest level" is coupled with questions about the strength of schedule, RPI, etc. which come as a result of being a member of the MVC.

[uniftw]

Again...let it be known/said.


NDSU is going nowhere without SDSU for the foreseeable future.

When they moved from D2 to D1 they did it as a all or nothing deal. You couldn't have one with out the other...and that isn't about to change.

We aren't tied to SDSU. We are stronger together though and we will help each other, we have multiple times in the past in regards to conference realignment. That said the only way we split is if NDSU goes FBS.

I've heard from media people in Fargo that a certain group of MVC schools will not support NDSU.

By "Certain group" they mean all of us.

[Fargobison]

Again...let it be known/said.


NDSU is going nowhere without SDSU for the foreseeable future.

When they moved from D2 to D1 they did it as a all or nothing deal. You couldn't have one with out the other...and that isn't about to change.

We aren't tied to SDSU. We are stronger together though and we will help each other, we have multiple times in the past in regards to conference realignment. That said the only way we split is if NDSU goes FBS.

I've heard from media people in Fargo that a certain group of MVC schools will not support NDSU.

By "Certain group" they mean all of us.

You might be surprised and I'll just leave it at that. That said it doesn't matter because schools that don't want it to happen aren't going anywhere.

[BCPanther]

Its not public vs private, Fargo.

I would almost guarantee that UNI is about the only school that would be okay with you coming into the league because we are BY FAR the closest and even at that you'd be one of our longer trips.

NDSU is stuck in the Summit because you are by yourselves and your little p*ssing match with UND has isolated you even further. It would take both of you for a league to consider going up there, because one school on an island has no value. If you would just get along with UND, I would think a league with the Eastern Big Sky teams could have happened, but you've chosen to isolate yourselves...

[Snaggletooth]

You might be surprised and I'll just leave it at that. That said it doesn't matter because schools that don't want it to happen aren't going anywhere.

So who is against it?

[Fargobison]

You might be surprised and I'll just leave it at that. That said it doesn't matter because schools that don't want it to happen aren't going anywhere.

So who is against it?

The private schools from what I've heard. They didn't like NDSU's location(which is understandable) and its commitment to football.

[Fargobison]

Its not public vs private, Fargo.

I would almost guarantee that UNI is about the only school that would be okay with you coming into the league because we are BY FAR the closest and even at that you'd be one of our longer trips.

NDSU is stuck in the Summit because you are by yourselves and your little p*ssing match with UND has isolated you even further. It would take both of you for a league to consider going up there, because one school on an island has no value. If you would just get along with UND, I would think a league with the Eastern Big Sky teams could have happened, but you've chosen to isolate yourselves...

I'd rather be in the Summit/MVFC then the Big Sky. In my opinion SDSU is a stronger partner because unlike UND they care about the same sports we care about. Once hockey season starts at UND, every other sport on that campus becomes irrelevant, they probably spend more on hockey than most MVC schools spend on basketball.

[Wufan]

The Sun Belt's never sent a team to the Top-25 rankings, and only 2 of its 7 bowl-eligible teams received bowl invitations. Arkansas State & Louisiana are nice, but the remainder is a hell hole.

Basketball is a much more attainable vehicle for Missouri State to market itself, IMO. If the President diverted his focus on football to basketball, MSU would be damn close to a Top-10 non-BCS/BE/AAC program capable of a couple Sweet-16 runs per decade. Hell, they were within the vicinity of that 15 years ago, and were poorer then.

You'll only get similar marketing in football via a Top-25 program (never accomplished in Sun Belt history) or winning the Access bid (fighting 70 schools for 1 spot -- good luck).

I know where I'd place my odds, but that's just me. MSU is capable of so much more in Basketball, that's the program with history and Springfield's flavor, and it's an easier road than the Football one.

Here is a kicker though. We average about 9k for football. We haven't been good in 20 plus years now. Every year people come out for football.

Being a WSU fan, I'm a little out of the loop on what good football attendance is, but 9K doesn't seem like a good number.