2013-2014 Bracketology thread

[rlh04d]

Indiana State at Arkansas. 6 seed.

8 teams revealed so far and I had 3 of them out of the NIT. Oh Lord what is this committee doing

Maybe you're just not very good.

I guess we could compare his to yours?

[KC MVC FAN]

[quote="rlh04d"][quote="TheAsianSensation"]Random tangent: look at the seeds the American teams got. Louisville (4), Cincy (5), UConn (7), Memphis (9), SMU (lol). And the committee basically said about as harsh as they possibly can that the bottom half of that conference screwed over the top half.

Something to file away in the future if you want to talk Wichita and conference realignment. AAC needs to do something.[/quote]
Look at noncon schedule strength:

Louisville #149
Cincy #95
UConn #78
Memphis #55
SMU #295

I'd say most of those teams screwed over themselves by avoiding difficult opponents out of conference. Particularly Louisville/SMU.[/quote]


Doubt if SMU avoided anything. They came out of nowhere with Larry Brown and had to play the schedule they had. With a good year this year they will be able to build a better schedule. Then Larry Brown will move on to another team and SMU will be back where they started. A vicious circle.

[DUBulldog]

Doubt if SMU avoided anything. They came out of nowhere with Larry Brown and had to play the schedule they had. With a good year this year they will be able to build a better schedule. Then Larry Brown will move on to another team and SMU will be back where they started. A vicious circle.

Larry Brown is 73 years old.....I don't see him moving on to another team. I know that's always been his M.O., but don't see it happening this time. If I remember correctly, Tim Jankovich is the Coach-In-Waiting for SMU.

[matter_of_fact]

When you look at the percentage of conference members who made the 2014 NCAA tournament, it is easy to see that the selection committee gives preference to the so-called “power” conferences:

Big XII 7 of 10 (70.0%)
Big Ten 6 of 12 (50.0%)
Pac 12 6 of 12 (50.0%)
Atlantic 10 6 of 13 (46.2%)
American Athletic 4 of 10 (40.0%)
Atlantic Coast 6 of 15 (40.0%)
Big East 4 of 10 (40.0%)
Southeastern 3 of 14 (21.4%)
West Coast 2 of 10 (20.0%)
Mountain West 2 of 11 (18.2%)
Missouri Valley 1 of 10 (10.0%)
Conference USA 1 of 16 ( 6.3%)

[TheAsianSensation]

Doubt if SMU avoided anything. They came out of nowhere with Larry Brown and had to play the schedule they had. With a good year this year they will be able to build a better schedule. Then Larry Brown will move on to another team and SMU will be back where they started. A vicious circle.

I agree with most of this. Remember SMU came over from CUSA last year, where everyone plays a garbage non-con schedule.

I also think our boy Jankovich was part of it - he kept Illinois State out of back-to-back NCAAs with garbage non-con schedules, and looks like he's still up to it. So when Larry leaves, Jankovich isn't going to fix this.

[rlh04d]

Doubt if SMU avoided anything. They came out of nowhere with Larry Brown and had to play the schedule they had. With a good year this year they will be able to build a better schedule. Then Larry Brown will move on to another team and SMU will be back where they started. A vicious circle.

This is his second year. He didnt inherit a bad schedule. The schedule is his fault and so is his team missing the dance. And as long as their schedule is that bad, they'll keep missing it, whether he's the coach or not.

[rlh04d]

I agree with most of this. Remember SMU came over from CUSA last year, where everyone plays a garbage non-con schedule.

I also think our boy Jankovich was part of it - he kept Illinois State out of back-to-back NCAAs with garbage non-con schedules, and looks like he's still up to it. So when Larry leaves, Jankovich isn't going to fix this.

I don't understand what any of that has to do with anything, really. The bad noncon scheduling followed the Conference USA teams to the AAC. Thats still why they missed the tourney, and easily correctable. The fault for missing the tourney and being underseeded is on the AAC coaches.

Either they'll fix it or they won't, but I don't see any larger problem there. It's not the bottom half of the league that made the top half schedule weak.

If Jank hasn't figured out his problem yet, he's an idiot.

[KC MVC FAN]

Ist: Takes more than a year to build schedule. Ask any of several MVC teams!


Added: IMO, Now that the 2014 BB season is coming to a close I think there should be a change to the NCAA Tournament bid process. There are 32 D1 conferences that host conference tournaments, with all tournament champions receiving an automatic bid. The Ivy league does not have a league tournament but the league season leader get an automatic bid. That's 33 of 68 bids. There are 35 at-large bids including four pigtail play-in bids. Thirty three automatic bids are a lot, perhaps to many, automatic bids. IMO, many deserving teams are being denied entry to the NMCAA tournament due to so many "feel good" automatic bids to the lower ranked conferences.
I think there are two possible ways to improve the tournament: (1) increase the number of teams or (2) reduce the number of automatic bids by eliminating automatic bids to lowest ranked conferences. I personally think the best course is to eliminate the automatic bids to the 8th to 12 lowest ranked conferences. If 8, this year that would be #25 Northeast, #26 Big Sky, #27 Southland, #28 America East, #29 Southern, #30 Big South, #31 MEAC, #32 SWAC. If 12 add: # 21 WAC, #22 Patriot, #23 Ohio Valley, # 24 Atlantic Sun.

These eight to 12 slots could then be given to more competitive team. For example: SMU, Wisconsin Green Bay, Arkansas, Georgetown, Florida State (the six most talked about snubs) , Indiana, poaches from the NIT, maybe Indiana State, etc.

IMO, the CBI and CIT is available for the lower ranked conference tournament champions who were struck from the automatic bid list.

Not throwing this up for argument, just for discussion!

[KC MVC FAN]

[quote="DUBulldog"][quote="KC MVC FAN"][quote="rlh04d"]


Doubt if SMU avoided anything. They came out of nowhere with Larry Brown and had to play the schedule they had. With a good year this year they will be able to build a better schedule. Then Larry Brown will move on to another team and SMU will be back where they started. A vicious circle.[/quote][/quote]

Larry Brown is 73 years old.....I don't see him moving on to another team. I know that's always been his M.O., but don't see it happening this time. If I remember correctly, Tim Jankovich is the Coach-In-Waiting for SMU.[/quote]

He will just retire again, or go back to the pros. Maybe MSU can hire him!

[Cdizzle]

Ist: Takes more than a year to build schedule. Ask any of several MVC teams!


Added: IMO, Now that the 2014 BB season is coming to a close I think there should be a change to the NCAA Tournament bid process. There are 32 D1 conferences that host conference tournaments, with all tournament champions receiving an automatic bid. The Ivy league does not have a league tournament but the league season leader get an automatic bid. That's 33 of 68 bids. There are 35 at-large bids including four pigtail play-in bids. Thirty three automatic bids are a lot, perhaps to many, automatic bids. IMO, many deserving teams are being denied entry to the NMCAA tournament due to so many "feel good" automatic bids to the lower ranked conferences.
I think there are two possible ways to improve the tournament: (1) increase the number of teams or (2) reduce the number of automatic bids by eliminating automatic bids to lowest ranked conferences. I personally think the best course is to eliminate the automatic bids to the 8th to 12 lowest ranked conferences. If 8, this year that would be #25 Northeast, #26 Big Sky, #27 Southland, #28 America East, #29 Southern, #30 Big South, #31 MEAC, #32 SWAC. If 12 add: # 21 WAC, #22 Patriot, #23 Ohio Valley, # 24 Atlantic Sun.

These eight to 12 slots could then be given to more competitive team. For example: SMU, Wisconsin Green Bay, Arkansas, Georgetown, Florida State (the six most talked about snubs) , Indiana, poaches from the NIT, maybe Indiana State, etc.

IMO, the CBI and CIT is available for the lower ranked conference tournament champions who were struck from the automatic bid list.

Not throwing this up for argument, just for discussion!

What's the point of expanding the tournament?

And GTown got snubbed? If that team got snubbed, then the tournament is too big.

Georgetown had a million opportunities to make the tournament, and failed miserably. Then they had the same opportunity as those auto-bid winners, and failed again.