Shockers vs. Tulsa - Intrust Bank Arena

[shocker3]

Not flaming here but was it a surprise the game wasn't sold out? I thought being the first game against an old rival would pack the place.

It would have been sold out if it weren't for the fact that the media was saying it was a sellout the day before the game. There were no walk up sales because everyone else just stayed home and watched the game on TV rather than take a chance on not getting a ticket.

The $102 and $52 tickets did sell out. There were a little over 800 $26 tickets in the top of the arena that went unsold.

I also hate to admit that I was one of those people who stayed home and watched it on TV. I had to go out of town on Tuesday and I wasn't sure I could get back in time for the game so I didn't buy tickets ahead of time. As it turned out I would have had plenty of time to pick up my nephew and go to the game but I thought the game was sold out so I didn't even try.

I will say that the seats at home in front of my TV were great.

[shocker3]

I will add that I was absolutely surprised when I heard it was sold out because there was absolutely NO PROMOTION of this game.

The marketing depts. at WSU and Intrust must have thought that the game didn't need any advertising even with the $102, $52, and $26 ticket prices in this bad economy. (Wichita's aircraft manufacturing industry is hurting very badly right now).

As it turned out, they were pretty much right.

[blueblood]

I could do some rerearch but here are my best guesses. I think for basketball it seats around 17500 to 18000. For an NCAA game closer to 17 for a Jay game I bet they could get over 18 thousand in. There are about 13,500 season ticket holders. Ticket prices vary from court side at I think $40, lower bowl for $30 and upper bowl I think are 20 or 25$. Now that being said, of the 13500 I am guessing 8 to 10000 of those make donations for the right to buy seats. I would guess the lower bowl which has a waiting list seats around 10000. As to the freebies. I would guess there normally only a couple hundred or less with discount tickets. There will be maybe 5 games they will boost numbers with groups like promise keepers or the like. Tonight for Samford the announced crowd will be 15 thousand something. There will probably be 13000 in the stands. I bet there will be 500 or so freebies. Like I think over Xmas break any high school kid with an ID can get in free.

Upper bowl seats for Creighton basketball games are $12. They were $9 just a few years ago. I go to 2 or 3 Jays games every year. The ticket price has never been more than $12 (I usually end up getting in on a free ticket- there have been plenty of promotions, but most of the games I go to these days are around the holidays).

My sister and brother and law have CU season tickets in the first row of the upper bowl, they have never had to make a donation (it must be lower bowl tickets only). Their season ticket price went up to $190 this year. Which is a bargain compared to what we have to pay for Shocker tickets and they actually have great seats.

Your sister got a good deal by buying season tickets. I did a quick search on both stub hub and ticket master. The cheapest tickets available for the next home game were 17.50 in the way upper bowl.

Section
Row
Seats
Description 204
N
14 - 15
PRICE LEVEL 5
UPPER BOWL
RESERVE
TypeFULL PRICE TICKET
PriceUS $17.55 x 2

As far as making a donation here is what I could find.

Over 2,700 families and businesses joined Jaybackers for the 2009-10 academic year and gifts to the organization totalled over $3.3 million, both all-time highs for the 13th consecutive year. In the last 14 years, the Jaybacker Organization has more than quadrupled in members while gifts have increased from $376,000 in 1996-97 to over $3.3 million in 2009-10.

So if 2700 made donations and you figure they each have from 2-4 seats that probably would mean that most in the 10,000 lower bowl made donations. The deal CU made with each of us is that as long as you make the same donation as the prior year you get to keep your same seat location. In theory as long as the Jays under perform your sister is in good shape with out making a donation. If, and that is a big if, they ever do make a run, she might be asked to pony up.

[Jays26]

We have 6 upper bowl tickets and each runs $12/game with no donation.

[DoubleJayAlum]

I'm pretty sure that all lower bowl seats, including mine, require a donation. I've also got some upper bowl seats that I give to clients and those required no donation.

I also believe that there are around 10,000 lower bowl seats.

[RoyalShock]

I will add that I was absolutely surprised when I heard it was sold out because there was absolutely NO PROMOTION of this game.

The marketing depts. at WSU and Intrust must have thought that the game didn't need any advertising even with the $102, $52, and $26 ticket prices in this bad economy. (Wichita's aircraft manufacturing industry is hurting very badly right now).

As it turned out, they were pretty much right.

And on the flip-side the broadcast of the game on Cox 22 had plenty of internet (Kansas.com) and electronic billboard promotion from what I saw on my drive into Wichita the night of the game.

[jayball]

Just to drive home two points mentioned already.

1. No cost savings to WSU since CKA has to be maintained anyway.

2. Very little chance, I bet, for WSU to make significantly more profit at IBA. Four sections of good seats were set aside for the IBA season pass holders/general public so that ruins it for a lot of WSU season ticket holders. Plus, it is run by a very profit-oriented management company so that alone makes the deal a no-deal.

Those two things, along with the fact that WSU fans love their CKA, I just don't see it becoming a permanent home for Shocker Basketball.

Based on the financial stability of CKA you guys are probably correct. Why take the risk unless you need to? I was just curious if the extra 5K per game could someday be a money maker and hard to pass up, especially if Marshall got the program rolling.

As to #2, I would think the management company would bend over backwards to sign the Shockers as a full time tenant. I would assume they would be trying skim off whatever they can for one time games to maximize their profit. But if you were an anchor tenant and had 18-19 near sellouts every winter, I would think they would be pretty excited about that and perhaps willing to cut a better deal for WSU.

Qwiet Center vs Inshhhh Arena.....it could be epic.

[shocker3]

I will add that I was absolutely surprised when I heard it was sold out because there was absolutely NO PROMOTION of this game.

The marketing depts. at WSU and Intrust must have thought that the game didn't need any advertising even with the $102, $52, and $26 ticket prices in this bad economy. (Wichita's aircraft manufacturing industry is hurting very badly right now).

As it turned out, they were pretty much right.

And on the flip-side the broadcast of the game on Cox 22 had plenty of internet (Kansas.com) and electronic billboard promotion from what I saw on my drive into Wichita the night of the game.

I think that played into it. The promotion of the game being on COX 22 really heated up just about the time that it was being reported that the game was a sell out.

Many people just assumed that they couldn't get tickets and decided to watch the game on TV. The endless last minute promotion of the game being on TV certainly didn't give people a reason to take a chance on there not being any tickets left.

[iSASO]

Just to drive home two points mentioned already.

1. No cost savings to WSU since CKA has to be maintained anyway.

2. Very little chance, I bet, for WSU to make significantly more profit at IBA. Four sections of good seats were set aside for the IBA season pass holders/general public so that ruins it for a lot of WSU season ticket holders. Plus, it is run by a very profit-oriented management company so that alone makes the deal a no-deal.

Those two things, along with the fact that WSU fans love their CKA, I just don't see it becoming a permanent home for Shocker Basketball.

Based on the financial stability of CKA you guys are probably correct. Why take the risk unless you need to? I was just curious if the extra 5K per game could someday be a money maker and hard to pass up, especially if Marshall got the program rolling.

As to #2, I would think the management company would bend over backwards to sign the Shockers as a full time tenant. I would assume they would be trying skim off whatever they can for one time games to maximize their profit. But if you were an anchor tenant and had 18-19 near sellouts every winter, I would think they would be pretty excited about that and perhaps willing to cut a better deal for WSU.

Qwiet Center vs Inshhhh Arena.....it could be epic.

IBA already has an anchor tenant, one that plays there in the winter so I bet there's no incentive for SMG to give away money to attract WSU, which is very happy with an arena it already owns. Besides, having all the WSU signage, monster murals and such installed with velcro strips on the walls at IBA just won't work. Whenever I take someone to a game who has never been before, you can bet your butt I walk them past the trophy cases in the concourse and point out the Elite Eight and Final Four banners hanging in CKA. How would that work with games located at a sterile IBA?

[DoubleJayAlum]

I will add that I was absolutely surprised when I heard it was sold out because there was absolutely NO PROMOTION of this game.

The marketing depts. at WSU and Intrust must have thought that the game didn't need any advertising even with the $102, $52, and $26 ticket prices in this bad economy. (Wichita's aircraft manufacturing industry is hurting very badly right now).

As it turned out, they were pretty much right.

And on the flip-side the broadcast of the game on Cox 22 had plenty of internet (Kansas.com) and electronic billboard promotion from what I saw on my drive into Wichita the night of the game.

I think that played into it. The promotion of the game being on COX 22 really heated up just about the time that it was being reported that the game was a sell out.

Many people just assumed that they couldn't get tickets and decided to watch the game on TV. The endless last minute promotion of the game being on TV certainly didn't give people a reason to take a chance on there not being any tickets left.

So people in Wichita don't have phones or computers? Whenever I've wanted to know whether there were tickets left to an event, I just called.

Noting your signature tagline, I'd say you've got a wonderful untapped market down there for the two-way radios and phones you sell.