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Re: 12/6 games

Postby goramblers2011 » December 6th, 2014, 10:13 pm

saluki762 wrote:
goramblers2011 wrote:If I had to guess as of now, I think Thursday will shape up like this:

7. Loyola
8. SIU
9. ISUb
10. Drake

How can you not have Bradley in the bottom 4?


So many bad teams, how does one choose?!
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Re: 12/6 games

Postby Lou_Valley » December 6th, 2014, 10:15 pm

Wichita State is a great team. Jim Crews is not a great coach, and his best players are freshmen.

Good luck to the Shockers in March. I think we'll see them for a nice long run.
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Re: 12/6 games

Postby ptownbraves » December 6th, 2014, 10:32 pm

Bradley looks like a bunch of grade school kids learning to dribble for the first time. Memphis has been full-court pressing the entire game. I've never seen a team look so uncomfortable with the ball.
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Re: 12/6 games

Postby Wufan » December 6th, 2014, 10:35 pm

The Aces reserve big man (Howard) had 16 tonight. If he's got talent, that really helps.
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Re: 12/6 games

Postby TheAsianSensation » December 6th, 2014, 10:38 pm

Bradley has no point guard

Bell is in foul trouble and has fouled out

Fields isn't even being put in the game

And we're getting pressed all 2nd half

The results have been predictable.
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Re: 12/6 games

Postby pafan » December 6th, 2014, 11:30 pm

Lou_Valley wrote:Jim Crews is not a great coach


But at least a couple steps ahead of Geno and Jacko.

TheAsianSensation wrote:Bradley's offense is a train crashing into a tire fire.

Wichita will hold us under 30, twice. Book it.

Deal. $30 in Scottrade Center concessions are yours if Bradley fails to score 30, twice, against Wichita.

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Re: 12/6 games

Postby rlh04d » December 6th, 2014, 11:36 pm

Lou_Valley wrote:Wichita State is a great team. Jim Crews is not a great coach, and his best players are freshmen.

Good luck to the Shockers in March. I think we'll see them for a nice long run.

Not a great coach and odd recruiting numbers. Where the heck are all of SLU's upper classmen?

I don't understand how a team like SLU ends up with only three upper classmen, one of which is simply terrible. This isn't Kentucky where you're dealing with one-and-dones.
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Re: 12/6 games

Postby rlh04d » December 6th, 2014, 11:38 pm

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rlh04d wrote:33 point lead now on SLU, early in the second half.

Evan Wessel of all people 3-4 from three and leading the team with 15 points.

Nurger's showing up as an offensive threat. At some point he's going to have to start rebounding for a guy of his size, though.


Nice bounce back win. And that's encouraging about Wessel on offense.

He's turning into a very nice overall player this year. 36% from three and the team's leading rebounder.

I still question him at the four, although less after the @Utah game, but he's going to slip into that starting 3 spot very well next year after Cotton graduates.
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Re: 12/6 games

Postby rlh04d » December 6th, 2014, 11:46 pm

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isumvc1 wrote:Indiana State will definitely be playing on Thursday, we're bad and getting worse by the game. When you're 318th in the nation in FG% there is very little hope.

I cannot believe how little progress has been made since IUPUI. I expected that kind of result to start the season with all the turnover...I didn't expect that to be as good as it got. Quite honestly, the team I've seen the last two games is one of the worst basketball teams I've seen in TH in the last 15 years. I sincerely HOPE this is just a funk, but this team won't even be competitive in the MVC.

Indiana State has several measures of comparison with other Valley teams by common opponents now:

- OT win @IUPUI - IUPUI loses by 13 @Drake (Drake's only win), by 27 @Evansville.
- Loss by 13 vsSLU - SLU wins vs SIU by 3, wins vs Bradley by 3, loses @WSU by ... well, 29, but might as well have been 50.
- Loss by 10 @Memphis - Memphis wins vs Bradley by 18, loses n. vs WSU by 15.
- Win by 4 vs Austin Peay - Austin Peay loses @SIU by 22.

Making too strong of opinions based on that sort of thing is silly ... but ISU has the worst Valley performance against three of those teams now. That's not a good sign.
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Re: 12/6 games

Postby Cdizzle » December 6th, 2014, 11:56 pm

rlh04d wrote:
glm38 wrote:
rlh04d wrote:33 point lead now on SLU, early in the second half.

Evan Wessel of all people 3-4 from three and leading the team with 15 points.

Nurger's showing up as an offensive threat. At some point he's going to have to start rebounding for a guy of his size, though.


Nice bounce back win. And that's encouraging about Wessel on offense.

He's turning into a very nice overall player this year. 36% from three and the team's leading rebounder.

I still question him at the four, although less after the @Utah game, but he's going to slip into that starting 3 spot very well next year after Cotton graduates.

After tonight he is actually at 44% for the year. In fact, if you are willing to count last season as an anomaly (not saying anyone should ignore it), he's shooting 40% from 3 the rest of his career. My guess is that Wessel's true shooting ability is somewhere in between. But a Wessel that is willing to take 2-4 open 3s a game and hit something like 37% of them, when you add in the other things he brings, is a huge asset.
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