2015 Arch Madness seeding probabilities

[BCPanther]

Marshall and Jacobson have proven themselves and there really isn't much doubt that they are good coaches. Lansing is showing that he's a pretty good coach as well, not quite at the level of the other two, but a solid coach nonetheless.

Is there anyone among the other 7 that you truly trust to use their talent to its fullest extent??

[unipanther99]

Marshall and Jacobson have proven themselves and there really isn't much doubt that they are good coaches. Lansing is showing that he's a pretty good coach as well, not quite at the level of the other two, but a solid coach nonetheless.

Is there anyone among the other 7 that you truly trust to use their talent to its fullest extent??

I think Ray Giacoletti will be in that category. It's still a transitional year for him, but next year will be telling.

[BCPanther]

Marshall and Jacobson have proven themselves and there really isn't much doubt that they are good coaches. Lansing is showing that he's a pretty good coach as well, not quite at the level of the other two, but a solid coach nonetheless.

Is there anyone among the other 7 that you truly trust to use their talent to its fullest extent??

I think Ray Giacoletti will be in that category. It's still a transitional year for him, but next year will be telling.

Agreed, I thought about him and also think Porter is doing a really nice job this year as well, but Porter has a history of not doing such a great job.

This league could really take a step forward if Drake continues to build and Bradley makes the right hire.

[Rambler63]

Marshall and Jacobson have proven themselves and there really isn't much doubt that they are good coaches. Lansing is showing that he's a pretty good coach as well, not quite at the level of the other two, but a solid coach nonetheless.

Is there anyone among the other 7 that you truly trust to use their talent to its fullest extent??

At the beginning of conference play, I would have given COTY to Moser, given what he was working with (no player taller than 6'7", no player on the entire roster more than 220 pounds, Doyle's torn labrum, etc.). And I was not a Porter fan going into the season. But I'd have to give it to Lansing at this point for the complete turnaround in conference play. To be honest, I don't get the Marty Simmons hatred-- take a look at UE's game against UNI to start the season, where they trailed the Panthers by 10 at halftime and got a comeback win. They've done as well or better than predicted this year and had injuries to Wing, Brzoja, and Mockevicius-- Loyola's win at UE was considered a "disgrace", but at that time of the year Loyola was healthy and playing really well-- 12-3 overall and 4-1 on the road.

[Wufan]

Jacobson for COY. Marshall is leading the pack for second but way behind and needs some wins to stay there.

[rlh04d]

Jacobson for COY. Marshall is leading the pack for second but way behind and needs some wins to stay there.

I find that hard to believe if WSU wins the conference. Jacobson has by far the more experienced roster. UNI is loaded with upper classmen, while WSU's entire bench is lined by freshmen. UNI has two under-classmen averaging more than five minutes per game -- WSU has six freshmen, four true freshmen, averaging that much. UNI has six seniors to WSU's two.

Win the conference, win COY. Anything outside of that is a joke and an acknowledgment that Jacobson has to be graded on a curve. Jacobson is too good of a coach to be graded on a curve.

By all means, UNI's performance is excellent and Jacobson deserves all the credit in the world. But he's not at a disadvantage -- if anything he has the advantage in a comparison to Marshall.

[rlh04d]

I get the feeling ISUr and UE both have the personnel to be really good next year if they each had a different coach. Unfortunately, that isn't in the cards for either. Seems unlikely either group will ever play to their ceiling under Simmons or Muller.

Life in the Valley.

I also get the feeling that UE would be in 10th place two years from now under a different coach. Hell, they'd probably bring someone in, make a Sweet 16 next year, immediately lose that coach, and divebomb.

I've decided I'm happy with Simmons at UE. He'll never be a good coach, but he never fields terrible teams, either. His teams are always a threat to end up on Thursday night, but never a threat to end up with a 300+ RPI. Quite frankly, I don't think Evansville is in a situation to do better than that long term. The probably I have is with the teams that are absolutely terrible. If Evansville under Simmons was one of the worst two teams in the conference, we would be golden.

Muller can still be a good coach at ISUr. He's still learning on the job, and he's very young for this gig. He's got time. It'll be interesting to see how next year plays out. He's obviously able to sell the program to talented kids, and I don't fault him too much for failing to win with four starting sophomores. Granted, I fault him for the program exodus he initiated that put him into a situation where he had to start four sophomores, but oh well.

Next year will definitely be interesting with Giacoletti. I think he's very capable of getting Drake on the right track.

I think next year will be telling from a progress standpoint for some coaches, but it's two years from now that I'm actually excited about. ISUr and Drake could both be very good teams that season. When you figure that Jacobson and Lansing are good enough coaches that UNI and ISUb will always be steadily decent-to-very-good, Doyle will be a senior for Loyola and carrying that team on its back, and Simmons is competent enough not to field a terrible team at Evansville, that could be a loaded year 1-7.

[goramblers2011]

I get the feeling ISUr and UE both have the personnel to be really good next year if they each had a different coach. Unfortunately, that isn't in the cards for either. Seems unlikely either group will ever play to their ceiling under Simmons or Muller.

Life in the Valley.

I think next year will be telling from a progress standpoint for some coaches, but it's two years from now that I'm actually excited about. ISUr and Drake could both be very good teams that season. When you figure that Jacobson and Lansing are good enough coaches that UNI and ISUb will always be steadily decent-to-very-good, Doyle will be a senior for Loyola and carrying that team on its back, and Simmons is competent enough not to field a terrible team at Evansville, that could be a loaded year 1-7.

Doyle will be a junior next year for the Ramblers because of the transfer rule.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Jacobson for COY. Marshall is leading the pack for second but way behind and needs some wins to stay there.

I find that hard to believe if WSU wins the conference. Jacobson has by far the more experienced roster. UNI is loaded with upper classmen, while WSU's entire bench is lined by freshmen. UNI has two under-classmen averaging more than five minutes per game -- WSU has six freshmen, four true freshmen, averaging that much. UNI has six seniors to WSU's two.

Win the conference, win COY. Anything outside of that is a joke and an acknowledgment that Jacobson has to be graded on a curve. Jacobson is too good of a coach to be graded on a curve.

By all means, UNI's performance is excellent and Jacobson deserves all the credit in the world. But he's not at a disadvantage -- if anything he has the advantage in a comparison to Marshall.

So the coach who in the last two years went to a Final Four, and then went 35-1 is at a disadvantage to a coach whose team was 16-15 last year and 18-14 the year before? So the coach who returns an All-American and had two players as pre-season All-Americans is at the disadvantage?

If WSU wins the conference I would give Marshall the COY, but to say he is disadvantaged to Jacobson because our roster has more upperclassmen is a little misleading.

[uniftw]

Jacobson for COY. Marshall is leading the pack for second but way behind and needs some wins to stay there.

I find that hard to believe if WSU wins the conference. Jacobson has by far the more experienced roster. UNI is loaded with upper classmen, while WSU's entire bench is lined by freshmen. UNI has two under-classmen averaging more than five minutes per game -- WSU has six freshmen, four true freshmen, averaging that much. UNI has six seniors to WSU's two.

Win the conference, win COY. Anything outside of that is a joke and an acknowledgment that Jacobson has to be graded on a curve. Jacobson is too good of a coach to be graded on a curve.

By all means, UNI's performance is excellent and Jacobson deserves all the credit in the world. But he's not at a disadvantage -- if anything he has the advantage in a comparison to Marshall.

So the coach who in the last two years went to a Final Four, and then went 35-1 is at a disadvantage to a coach whose team was 16-15 last year and 18-14 the year before? So the coach who returns an All-American and had two players as pre-season All-Americans is at the disadvantage?

If WSU wins the conference I would give Marshall the COY, but to say he is disadvantaged to Jacobson because our roster has more upperclassmen is a little misleading.

Yeah...


The coach who grew his players and his system to this point clearly didn't do as good of a job coaching as a coach who has 2 All American's on the roster.