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[musiccitybulldog]

I missed that a player broke an ankle. It looked like with McGill leading and a McGill player hit the wide open three and Marshall took to the floor.

[Stickboy46]

I missed that a player broke an ankle. It looked like with McGill leading and a McGill player hit the wide open three and Marshall took to the floor.

Really? Does he have to wait until someone is injured really bad? He already had one player get stitches and a concussion in the game.

The part you missed when you weren't actually watching the game was the fact that they called Brown for a foul when the McGill player was on top of his head going over his back on a textbook block out. Then a McGill player shoved a WSU player in the back right in front of the WSU bench.

But its pretty obvious you really don't care what happened .. you just want to judge.

[SubGod22]

I missed that a player broke an ankle. It looked like with McGill leading and a McGill player hit the wide open three and Marshall took to the floor.

Really? Does he have to wait until someone is injured really bad? He already had one player get stitches and a concussion in the game.

The part you missed when you weren't actually watching the game was the fact that they called Brown for a foul when the McGill player was on top of his head going over his back on a textbook block out. Then a McGill player shoved a WSU player in the back right in front of the WSU bench.

But its pretty obvious you really don't care what happened .. you just want to judge.

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[RoyalShock]

I missed that a player broke an ankle. It looked like with McGill leading and a McGill player hit the wide open three and Marshall took to the floor.

Really? Does he have to wait until someone is injured really bad? He already had one player get stitches and a concussion in the game.

The part you missed when you weren't actually watching the game was the fact that they called Brown for a foul when the McGill player was on top of his head going over his back on a textbook block out. Then a McGill player shoved a WSU player in the back right in front of the WSU bench.

But its pretty obvious you really don't care what happened .. you just want to judge.

I watched the Brown blockout several times and Zach was using his right arm to hold the McGill player behind him. It wasn't textbook and probably was a foul on him. Then Rashard Kelly got shoved after a rebound (which I think really set Marshall off), but only after Rashard put a shoulder into the guy's chest. Now, I think both of those events were a result of how much physicality the ref's were allowing McGill to get away with. It was the only way our guys could compete.

As for Marshall's meltdown, who remembers when Dana Altman went berserk on the refs at the end of a Creighton NIT game? Not much difference between the two, IMO.

[Cdizzle]

Having stuff to talk about in August in awesome.

WSU, giving gifts to Valley fans, even in the offseason.

[Stickboy46]

I missed that a player broke an ankle. It looked like with McGill leading and a McGill player hit the wide open three and Marshall took to the floor.

Really? Does he have to wait until someone is injured really bad? He already had one player get stitches and a concussion in the game.

The part you missed when you weren't actually watching the game was the fact that they called Brown for a foul when the McGill player was on top of his head going over his back on a textbook block out. Then a McGill player shoved a WSU player in the back right in front of the WSU bench.

But its pretty obvious you really don't care what happened .. you just want to judge.

I watched the Brown blockout several times and Zach was using his right arm to hold the McGill player behind him. It wasn't textbook and probably was a foul on him. Then Rashard Kelly got shoved after a rebound (which I think really set Marshall off), but only after Rashard put a shoulder into the guy's chest. Now, I think both of those events were a result of how much physicality the ref's were allowing McGill to get away with. It was the only way our guys could compete.

As for Marshall's meltdown, who remembers when Dana Altman went berserk on the refs at the end of a Creighton NIT game? Not much difference between the two, IMO.

Both of those points illustrate lack of control and regard for safety. Zach's Arms position doesn't condone the player to dangerously jump on his head, let alone REWARD that player with free throws out of it. If a player put a shoulder into someone then gets shoved back, both should have fouls. Letting it go just further advances it. Refs lost control 100%. That's just 2 examples in the minute before the tirade. That isn't counting the 2.5 quarters of rugby play that was allowed before that.

[musiccitybulldog]

I would think if a coach had the concerns you claim. A coach would have called time out and discussed it with the officials.

Where I found the actions of the WSU coach unusual was the treatment of his own players and staff during the tirade.

I watch a lot of Valley basketball and found it quite out of the norm.

[tribecalledquest]

I'm not buying it was a strategic move to try and be inspirational. He lost control. The thing that bothered me watching it was he was really pushing and shoving his own staff and team members, hard.

Yes. Trying to sell it as anything "inspirational" or warranted is ridiculous.

If anyone's six year old acted that way they would punish them immediately. I don't care what is happening. It's an exhibition game. Actions like that are completely uncalled for and inappropriate. It doesn't mean he should be fired, or he's a bad coach, or anything. In that particular situation Gregg Marshall was completely out of line.

He admitted he went too far and wasn't proud of it. He said he's not ashamed of the fact that he stood up for his players though.

I love how people keep throwing around the fact that it was an exhibition game. When a player goes down with a broken ankle, do you just tell the ankle that it was an exhibition game and it just says "oh sorry about that, I'll fix myself". Injuries happen in exhibitions too.

You really believe he did this to "stand up for his players"? Unselfish Gregg--always thinking about his players. He lost his cool. He lost it. He went nuts. This was not "strategic" in anyway. He has a bit of a history of doing this. That's fine. He isn't perfect.

The fact that its an exhibition game makes his behavior even more embarrassing. It would be embarrassing enough if it happened in a regular season game that matters--but the fact that it happened in August, in a game that doesn't matter makes it even worse.

No one is "judging" anyone here.

Making excuses for a grown man acting like a four-year old is ridiculous.

[Stickboy46]

I would think if a coach had the concerns you claim. A coach would have called time out and discussed it with the officials.

Where I found the actions of the WSU coach unusual was the treatment of his own players and staff during the tirade.

I'm not judging anything. I watch a lot of Valley basketball and found it quite out of the norm.

He had multiple discussion with the refs (and scorers table) throughout the game. A lot of people that didn't watch anything except the tirade video are trying to judge this.

[Cdizzle]

You really believe he did this to "stand up for his players"? Unselfish Gregg--always thinking about his players.

Call it what you want. The man is a master at pushing the buttons of his players. Has been for 20 years. If people haven't figured that out yet, they probably never will.