Intangibles from a pg are just as important.
FVV had them - big time
BirdsEyeView wrote:Intangibles from a pg are just as important.
FVV had them - big time
BirdsEyeView wrote:ove, WSU fans are posturing, ISU fans posturing, UNI fans posturing for their own benefits. Nobody is fully realistic about the concerns of their own team.
uniftw wrote:BirdsEyeView wrote:ove, WSU fans are posturing, ISU fans posturing, UNI fans posturing for their own benefits. Nobody is fully realistic about the concerns of their own team.
I'm not sure any UNI fan has "postured". I'd say we are cautiously optimistic but understand that a combination of a true freshman, JUCO transfer and red-shirt freshman seeing most of the PG duties is scary. We also know that the ceiling for McCloud is higher than any PG we've ever had. We know that he's the second most skilled PG we've ever had show up on campus. The only one "better" would be Wes and that's comparing Wes at the end of his senior year to Juwan.
There's going to be growing pains but find those on social media that truly following UNI basketball. I don't think there has ever been a player that anyone will remember with his upside at UNI.
Cdizzle wrote:BirdsEyeView wrote:Intangibles from a pg are just as important.
FVV had them - big time
I agree on both points. But I don't see how it's particularly relevant when comparing Frankamp to Lee.
hot nuts wrote:Sports fans are a real insecure lot...always worried about what other fans think about their team.
BirdsEyeView wrote:Cdizzle wrote:BirdsEyeView wrote:Intangibles from a pg are just as important.
FVV had them - big time
I agree on both points. But I don't see how it's particularly relevant when comparing Frankamp to Lee.
It's not really, just showing that going from FVV to Frankamp or whomever at point is more than just looking into a stat book and comparing his stats to other point guards in the league (ie - Lee).
A point guard must have leadership qualities, toughness qualities, basketball IQ and an overall competitiveness that spills over to their teammates.
FVV had all of those and it made his team way better (regardless of stats). Your Play Angry mantra was personified (not sure if that's the right word?) by FVV.
Do you have a replacement for those qualities beyond your "big time talent" players like McDuffie, Shamet, etc.? Only time will tell.
Cdizzle wrote:BirdsEyeView wrote:
It's not really, just showing that going from FVV to Frankamp or whomever at point is more than just looking into a stat book and comparing his stats to other point guards in the league (ie - Lee).
A point guard must have leadership qualities, toughness qualities, basketball IQ and an overall competitiveness that spills over to their teammates.
FVV had all of those and it made his team way better (regardless of stats). Your Play Angry mantra was personified (not sure if that's the right word?) by FVV.
Do you have a replacement for those qualities beyond your "big time talent" players like McDuffie, Shamet, etc.? Only time will tell.
That would be fine. Except Lee hasn't exactly shown those qualities in a way that translated into team success for ISUr. So really, the stats are pretty much what we have to go on. Just throwing out that Lee is better than a new guy because the new guy is not FVV is a pretty weak argument.
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