Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

People want to see the possible number 2 overall pick of the draft.

[RacerJoeD]

Could have been a game at Bradley with MVC logos all over the place instead.

[BEARZ77]

Could have been a game at Bradley with MVC logos all over the place instead.

People do realize that most posters here are in favor of Murray coming aboard and that no amount of repeat rhetoric on this board will make it happen. And the people who understand how the Valley works know it's not Elgin or the league office that determines these things, it's the University presidents.

For me, that's where it gets old and tiresome to hear the same thing over and over like somehow that will change things; we get it [ or at least most do]. Murray fans would like to be a Valley school. Murray has a great history and would be a good addition to the Valley. Murray travels well. Murray has a history of great coaches and turning out some NBA prospects. It's all good, but we don't vote.

It ain't MVC fans or anyone on this board keeping that from happening. It might be the going to 11 that's the issue, ot it might be no solid 12th member . Or it might be something none of us here have any inkling about, but obviously the presidents had an issue [ or several] that they weren't ready to move that direction last year, this year, and perhaps never. We don't know. Basketball at this level is a small consideration when presidents sit down to look at mergers. They may have very big significant concerns that has absolutly nothing to do with how good a basketball program Murray State has.

[MissouriValleyUnite]

Hey, make the board enjoyable for you. Seriously, just click profile -> Add Foe.

You don’t have to like us, just block us.

[E-Villan]

Could have been a game at Bradley with MVC logos all over the place instead.

People do realize that most posters here are in favor of Murray coming aboard and that no amount of repeat rhetoric on this board will make it happen. And the people who understand how the Valley works know it's not Elgin or the league office that determines these things, it's the University presidents.

For me, that's where it gets old and tiresome to hear the same thing over and over like somehow that will change things; we get it [ or at least most do]. Murray fans would like to be a Valley school. Murray has a great history and would be a good addition to the Valley. Murray travels well. Murray has a history of great coaches and turning out some NBA prospects. It's all good, but we don't vote.

It ain't MVC fans or anyone on this board keeping that from happening. It might be the going to 11 that's the issue, ot it might be no solid 12th member . Or it might be something none of us here have any inkling about, but obviously the presidents had an issue [ or several] that they weren't ready to move that direction last year, this year, and perhaps never. We don't know. Basketball at this level is a small consideration when presidents sit down to look at mergers. They may have very big significant concerns that has absolutly nothing to do with how good a basketball program Murray State has.

BearZ77,

I don't normally call people out, but I feel I must in this case. I have been shocked with what you written in your last few posts. You have brought facts and logical thinking into this.

Neither have any place in this thread.

[TheAsianSensation]

Bristol put the Murray St 8pm game tonight on espn2 while relegating the Arizona/Utah 8pm game to espnu. Anyone notice that?

Can't wait to see the outrage from the rest of the OVC programs that APU gpt an extra ESPN appearance

Literally just about everyone here wants Murray St at this point, we just need to yell louder now.

[ptownbraves]

“Waiting for restructuring” is the same reactive strategy the Valley employed in the 2000’s when it passed on expanding with Butler. Fast forward 10 years and the Valley had neither Butler’s 2 Final Fours nor its 2 biggest members.

In the early '90s when the decision to add Evansville was being made, Butler was a consideration to be added. However, Evansville was seen as the more promising school from a basketball standpoint.

"In 1994, the MVC added Evansville instead of Butler. It appeared the obvious choice. Evansville had made three NCAA tournaments in the previous five years and its average home attendance exceeded 10,000. Butler had not danced since 1962 and drew meager crowds."

This is from the former Peoria Journal Star sports editor and is a good read on MVC expansion after Wichita left. https://www.pjstar.com/sports/20170506/ ... ew-members

[MissouriValleyUnite]

“Waiting for restructuring” is the same reactive strategy the Valley employed in the 2000’s when it passed on expanding with Butler. Fast forward 10 years and the Valley had neither Butler’s 2 Final Fours nor its 2 biggest members.

In the early '90s when the decision to add Evansville was being made, Butler was a consideration to be added. However, Evansville was seen as the more promising school from a basketball standpoint.

"In 1994, the MVC added Evansville instead of Butler. It appeared the obvious choice. Evansville had made three NCAA tournaments in the previous five years and its average home attendance exceeded 10,000. Butler had not danced since 1962 and drew meager crowds."

This is from the former Peoria Journal Star sports editor and is a good read on MVC expansion after Wichita left. https://www.pjstar.com/sports/20170506/ ... ew-members

There was also mid-2000s when WKU wanted in and Butler showed interest. MVC turned it down to wait on SLU, WKU went FBS, Butler Butler’d, and the rest was history.

[BEARZ77]

Hey, make the board enjoyable for you. Seriously, just click profile -> Add Foe.

You don’t have to like us, just block us.

Post what you want, just giving ya feedback. Pretty light feedback actually; ask yourself, if you posted repeatedly on the Big 12 Fan Board about how [ pick a Valley school] should be added and you kept repeating it for months, how long do ya think that'd float. But hey it's all good, have at it, and at it, and at it, and at it...... !

[BearsCountry]

In 2012 we were pretty close to a MVC/WAC merger but Idaho was the problem.