2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby Hacksaw » February 21st, 2020, 9:14 am

Historical MVC tournament seed and finish based on wins through 15 games:
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby Hacksaw » February 22nd, 2020, 5:46 pm

Seed possibilities as of this morning: Bradley 1-6, Drake 2-8, Evansville 9-10, Illinois St 9-10, Indiana St 1-8, Loyola 1-6, Missouri St 4-8, UNI 1-5, SIU 1-7, Valpo 3-8

Seed possibilities after Drake-ISUr game: Bradley 1-5, Drake 5-8, Evansville 10, Illinois St 9, Indiana St 1-8, Loyola 1-5, Missouri St 4-8, UNI 1-5, SIU 1-6, Valpo 3-8

Seed eliminations so far today: Bradley 6, Drake 2-4, Evansville 9, Illinois St 10, Loyola 6, SIU 7
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby chitown fanatic » February 22nd, 2020, 7:48 pm

Hacksaw wrote:Seed possibilities as of this morning: Bradley 1-6, Drake 2-8, Evansville 9-10, Illinois St 9-10, Indiana St 1-8, Loyola 1-6, Missouri St 4-8, UNI 1-5, SIU 1-7, Valpo 3-8

Seed possibilities after Drake-ISUr game: Bradley 1-5, Drake 5-8, Evansville 10, Illinois St 9, Indiana St 1-8, Loyola 1-5, Missouri St 4-8, UNI 1-5, SIU 1-6, Valpo 3-8

Seed eliminations so far today: Bradley 6, Drake 2-4, Evansville 9, Illinois St 10, Loyola 6, SIU 7


Ive been trying to see how Valpo could make the 3 in ANY scenario. How? Their net couldnt be higher than Bradley even if Bradley lost out, could it?
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby Khan4Cats » February 22nd, 2020, 8:25 pm

chitown fanatic wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:Seed possibilities as of this morning: Bradley 1-6, Drake 2-8, Evansville 9-10, Illinois St 9-10, Indiana St 1-8, Loyola 1-6, Missouri St 4-8, UNI 1-5, SIU 1-7, Valpo 3-8

Seed possibilities after Drake-ISUr game: Bradley 1-5, Drake 5-8, Evansville 10, Illinois St 9, Indiana St 1-8, Loyola 1-5, Missouri St 4-8, UNI 1-5, SIU 1-6, Valpo 3-8

Seed eliminations so far today: Bradley 6, Drake 2-4, Evansville 9, Illinois St 10, Loyola 6, SIU 7


Ive been trying to see how Valpo could make the 3 in ANY scenario. How? Their net couldnt be higher than Bradley even if Bradley lost out, could it?


6 way tie?
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby chitown fanatic » February 22nd, 2020, 9:11 pm

no because mo st and siu play each other last game...I think his stat is wrong for valpo. Valpo at 137 cant catch BU no matter what they do. 4 should be best seed for them I believe
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby chitown fanatic » February 22nd, 2020, 9:15 pm

6 way tie not possible... Valpo plays MSU wednesday
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby Hacksaw » February 22nd, 2020, 10:25 pm

Here's what the model says at the moment:
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Also, for Valpo to end at the 3-seed, it looks to me like the scenarios all include a 4-way tie (Bradley, Indiana St, Southern Illinois, and Valpo) or a 5-way tie (add in Drake) at 10 wins a piece where the mini round robin tiebreakers eliminate Indiana State, Southern Illinois, (and Drake), as well as Valpo's NET ranking manages to climb ahead of Bradley's to win the final tiebreaker. There is a 35 position gap (102 to 137) before incorporating the outcome of today's (Saturday's) game and for the tiebreaker to come into play Valpo wins the next two (vs MSU and at InSt) and Bradley loses the next two (at IlSt and vs Loyola). This may be quite rare, but it's not totally improbable to believe the Valpo's NET may pass Bradley's in that scenario.
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby BCPanther » February 22nd, 2020, 10:33 pm

The UNI-SIU game tomorrow is crazy from a scenario perspective.

If SIU were to pull the (pretty significant) upset, we've got chaos at the top. UNI holds serve and it pretty much sets the top of the standings.

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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby uniguy » February 22nd, 2020, 11:14 pm

Any chance we can see the unweighted scenario too Hacksaw? I know they’re probably less accurate, but I love seeing all the possibilities.

Thanks for doing this!
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby Hacksaw » February 23rd, 2020, 7:52 am

uniguy wrote:Any chance we can see the unweighted scenario too Hacksaw? I know they’re probably less accurate, but I love seeing all the possibilities.

Thanks for doing this!


No problem. I should've provided this at the same time as the weighted scenarios anyway:

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