Bearvision wrote:BEARZ77 wrote:Exactly, you want a picture of how this works consider:
Loyola 13-2 , #19 NET
Marquette 13-6 # 33 NET
Seems obvious right, but now consider Marquette has 5 Q1 wins, Loyola 1 Q1 win .
Loyola has no way to get 5 Q1 wins by seasons end , Marquette will probably have a chance for another 5 or 6. If Loyola goes 15-3 in the Valley then loses a game in STL , they'll be something like 24-6, but with maybe 2 Q-1 wins. Marquette could split their last 11 games or so, end up say 20-12, with 7 Q1 wins. They both probably would be in the 30's NET, but it wouldn't be close for who got the at large
The person I responded to said win out. That would mean undefeated in conference and several additional nice wins (at least two over Missouri State).
If they go unbeaten in MVC, then lose in the title game, they’re a 6-seed.
Even winning out, I personally don't see it. 2017 Wichita State is the perfect example... They went into Selection Sunday at 30-4 overall and 17-1 in the MVC. Only loss was on the road against the team they shared the league championship with. They won Arch Madness, including a blowout win on Sunday on CBS. Also had non-conference wins over Tulsa (home), LSU (neutral site), St. Louis (home), Colorado State (road), and Oklahoma (neutral site). Played competitive games on a neutral site with #10 Louisville (10 point loss) and #24 Michigan State (5 point loss) also. That team got a 10 seed.
I don't see much difference in that resume and the one that Loyola would have by winning out until Sunday in St. Louis. Wichita State, at that time, had the same (or more) name value from deep tournament runs as Loyola has now.