Lickliter Gone

[BCPanther]

Just please don't hire Tom Crean.

[Aces44]

Just please don't hire Tom Crean.

Are you scared that he would win too much, or try to drink all your Diet Coke?

[BCPanther]

Just please don't hire Tom Crean.

Are you scared that he would win too much, or try to drink all your Diet Coke?

He hasn't won anywhere and the success he had at Marquette was tied directly to Dwyane Wade. He's got a .568 winning percentage after being at three stops where he could literally buy 10 wins per year. I'm saying you can do much better.

Also, Diet Coke is trash so him loving it checks all the boxes. #TeamPepsiZero

[Aces44]

Just please don't hire Tom Crean.

Are you scared that he would win too much, or try to drink all your Diet Coke?

He hasn't won anywhere and the success he had at Marquette was tied directly to Dwyane Wade. He's got a .568 winning percentage after being at three stops where he could literally buy 10 wins per year. I'm saying you can do much better.

Also, Diet Coke is trash so him loving it checks all the boxes. #TeamPepsiZero

He did win the B10 at IU, but I think it’s a terrible fit and I don’t want to be forced into rooting for him

[acecard1]

Just please don't hire Tom Crean.

I am hoping the same thing.

[NuncEstBibendum]

Just please don't hire Tom Crean.

I am hoping the same thing.

I am predicting the Crean. I also predict he will get contact lenses and lose the glasses. He will not, however, switch to anything close to pepsi Zero.

[VUGrad1314]

Steele was so bad at Xavier that they fired him after a Win.

If you want him at Valpo, I’m rooting for both of you.

I respectfully submit that Steele's firing has more to do with Xavier's outsized opinion of themselves as a program than anything Steele did wrong as a coach. Besides it's not like Evansville is Xavier level as a program. Nor is the MVC as strong a conference as the Big East. Just because a coach cannot succeed at the Big East level does not mean he can't succeed in the MVC nor is success in the MVC a predictor of success at a higher level. Yes I would make the switch from Lottich to Steele in a heartbeat if it were on the table and I think most college basketball fans and observers would view that as an upgrade. He's apparently not even available at the moment so this discussion is irrelevant but sitting here telling me he wouldn't have been a step in the right direction for Evansville seems off base to me. I don't know who the answer is or if Evansville can pull itself out of the spiral it is in. I certainly hope it can because the MVC will be better for it. Maybe Tom Crean can do well at the mid major level. He would certainly sell tickets and generate excitement in the short term. His tenure in Georgia was an absolute dud but I think it's very hard to succeed in basketball at any SEC school that isn't Kentucky or Florida since it is such a football centric league. When he was at a basketball first school in a conference that values basketball he went to 3 Sweet 16 in 5 years. Hiring a P5 retread isn't always a sexy move but it could be a good one especially if Evansville is committed to basketball success under their new AD.

[Aces44]

Steele was so bad at Xavier that they fired him after a Win.

If you want him at Valpo, I’m rooting for both of you.

I respectfully submit that Steele's firing has more to do with Xavier's outsized opinion of themselves as a program than anything Steele did wrong as a coach. Besides it's not like Evansville is Xavier level as a program. Nor is the MVC as strong a conference as the Big East. Just because a coach cannot succeed at the Big East level does not mean he can't succeed in the MVC nor is success in the MVC a predictor of success at a higher level. Yes I would make the switch from Lottich to Steele in a heartbeat if it were on the table and I think most college basketball fans and observers would view that as an upgrade. He's apparently not even available at the moment so this discussion is irrelevant but sitting here telling me he wouldn't have been a step in the right direction for Evansville seems off base to me. I don't know who the answer is or if Evansville can pull itself out of the spiral it is in. I certainly hope it can because the MVC will be better for it. Maybe Tom Crean can do well at the mid major level. He would certainly sell tickets and generate excitement in the short term. His tenure in Georgia was an absolute dud but I think it's very hard to succeed in basketball at any SEC school that isn't Kentucky or Florida since it is such a football centric league. When he was at a basketball first school in a conference that values basketball he went to 3 Sweet 16 in 5 years. Hiring a P5 retread isn't always a sexy move but it could be a good one especially if Evansville is committed to basketball success under their new AD.

It’s a little hard for me to take you seriously when you say things like “outsized opinion of themselves”
Everyone who has coached at Xavier has won, except Steele, and they will win again with Miller soon
They wanted him gone so badly that they fired him after a win when the season wasn’t over yet
Then the Asst won the NIT
Keep pining for him though, I bet Miami will let him go if you want him

Also, you saying “if Evansville can pull itself out of the spiral..”
Sheesh, you are a Beacon fan. Check yourself.

[E-Villan]

Steele was so bad at Xavier that they fired him after a Win.

If you want him at Valpo, I’m rooting for both of you.

I respectfully submit that Steele's firing has more to do with Xavier's outsized opinion of themselves as a program than anything Steele did wrong as a coach. Besides it's not like Evansville is Xavier level as a program. Nor is the MVC as strong a conference as the Big East. Just because a coach cannot succeed at the Big East level does not mean he can't succeed in the MVC nor is success in the MVC a predictor of success at a higher level. Yes I would make the switch from Lottich to Steele in a heartbeat if it were on the table and I think most college basketball fans and observers would view that as an upgrade. He's apparently not even available at the moment so this discussion is irrelevant but sitting here telling me he wouldn't have been a step in the right direction for Evansville seems off base to me. I don't know who the answer is or if Evansville can pull itself out of the spiral it is in. I certainly hope it can because the MVC will be better for it. Maybe Tom Crean can do well at the mid major level. He would certainly sell tickets and generate excitement in the short term. His tenure in Georgia was an absolute dud but I think it's very hard to succeed in basketball at any SEC school that isn't Kentucky or Florida since it is such a football centric league. When he was at a basketball first school in a conference that values basketball he went to 3 Sweet 16 in 5 years. Hiring a P5 retread isn't always a sexy move but it could be a good one especially if Evansville is committed to basketball success under their new AD.

So you're justification for Steele is we're not at the same level as Xavier, and he is a step better than Lickliter.

During the Crews era we were at the same level as Xavier. In fact, UE-Xavier was the biggest rivalry in the MCC until the league imploded. Xavier has done a lot of things right since then, and we haven't. I am not saying our next coach should lead us into the Big East, but I sure as hell hope they and our AD have much higher goals than being a step better than Lickliter. Most of the posters on this board would be a step better than Lickliter.

[TylerDurden]

Quit focusing on “late stage” hiring.

Now is much better than March 2023

It’s early

It's not early. UE has no coaches and six players on the roster as of 5/9/2022.

When do you think the college basketball season starts?

When do YOU think the college basketball season starts? This isn't high school. The season doesn't start on the first official practice day.

Whether you think so or not, Ziggy needs to make a hire ASAP so they can get a summer program rolling. They way he fired the entire staff ensures a washout for this year's recruiting class and most of next seasons. The only saving grace is that the transfer portal is full of players - stop-gap players to be sure and by the time UE gets a staff they'll be leftovers - but at least they can fill a roster with them.

I get that a new AD wants to make a splash, blah, blah, blah...but he really neutered an already struggling program with this and surely made it more difficult to find a competent coach.