Why is BJ ranked?

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Re: Why is BJ ranked?

Postby C0|db|00ded » November 8th, 2012, 10:33 pm

Little Eddie wrote:Just a quick post from an old timer. RDR, you still have it...loved the Dougie transfer from UNI comment.

Cold, I'm just going to answer the question as if you're actually interested. As some have said they return everyone but Antoine Young from a team that fared pretty well last season and ended up ranked. The difficulty in playing vs Creighton this year will be how to defend them. If you collapse down low on Dougie and GE, you're likely going to get killed from the 3 point shooters that are Josh Jones, Ethan Wragge, Avery Dingman, Jahenns Manigat...if you don't collapse then Doug and GE will have their way underneath. Jays also have a couple guys that can create off the dribble (something they lacked a little aside from Antoine Young from last season) in Andre Yates and Nevin Johnson (redshirt frosh currently injured).

The area of concern for most is defense...it seems to be a given that the Jays will get their points somehow due to the weapons they have inside and out. It's not a given that they'll be able to stop the opposition from doing the same.

BTW, I'm guessing Armstead is going to be a beast this year...played really well for Oregon in the one year my bro coached him up there.


Hmmm.. it takes about 3 of those guards you mentioned to equal Young's point production. Chatman doesn't look like he can shoot too well. And his 41 turnovers in about 1/3 of the playing time of Young is pretty shaky. He was turning the ball over at double the rate of Young. Who is going to lead your team?

Also, I don't know about the rest of the conference, but the Shocks had no problem containing Lil' Wookie last year and we sure won't this year. There will be no collapsing down.. lol

Armstead is solid, but I don't consider him a beast in the context of what we have on the roster. I expect Early, Hall, and Wiggins to have a bigger impact. We just need Armstead to be solid and lead the team, which I'm sure he will. EO will clear the lane of anyone silly enough to drive, and Hall will score in bunches. Early is going to demand attention every time he checks into a game. He is an unbelievable athlete.

I certainly hope you make it to the Shocker game in Bugaha this year. You will get your money's worth with what we are bringing to town.


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Re: Why is BJ ranked?

Postby Ricardo del Rio » November 9th, 2012, 12:09 pm

God help us, if the Blue Birds sweep us this year.
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Re: Why is BJ ranked?

Postby shoxrox » November 9th, 2012, 3:07 pm

WSU has won 3 of the last 4 meetings, including a 21-point blowout, so we have a little room to talk. With the way things are likely to unfold this year, I wouldn't talk too long and hard. I definitely wouldn't be trolling.
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Re: Why is BJ ranked?

Postby CaliJay » November 9th, 2012, 3:11 pm

shoxrox wrote:WSU has won 3 of the last 4 meetings, including a 21-point blowout, so we have a little room to talk. With the way things are likely to unfold this year, I wouldn't talk too long and hard. I definitely wouldn't be trolling.


Let's go back the last 20 meetings, can someone help with the head to head record between CU and WSU?
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Re: Why is BJ ranked?

Postby valleychamp » November 9th, 2012, 3:24 pm

shoxrox wrote:WSU has won 3 of the last 4 meetings, including a 21-point blowout, so we have a little room to talk. With the way things are likely to unfold this year, I wouldn't talk too long and hard. I definitely wouldn't be trolling.


The last glimpse of basketball we had last year saw Creighton winning the MVC tournament, while WSU bowed out early. We also saw WSU bow out immediately in the NCAA tournament losing to a double digit seed, while Creighton defeated an Alabama team that WSU lost to earlier int the year.

"Room to talk"--depends on what you are talking about.
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Re: Why is BJ ranked?

Postby shoxrox » November 9th, 2012, 4:15 pm

CaliJay wrote:
shoxrox wrote:WSU has won 3 of the last 4 meetings, including a 21-point blowout, so we have a little room to talk. With the way things are likely to unfold this year, I wouldn't talk too long and hard. I definitely wouldn't be trolling.


Let's go back the last 20 meetings, can someone help with the head to head record between CU and WSU?


WSU fans get blasted on here for bringing up ancient history. I bring up recent history and now the roles get reversed.

Anybody can put up an arbitrary time period to skew their points. I figured the most recent would be the most relevant. I thought my post was pretty passive and respectful and wouldn't garner much response. So much for that.
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Re: Why is BJ ranked?

Postby shoxrox » November 9th, 2012, 4:32 pm

valleychamp wrote:
shoxrox wrote:WSU has won 3 of the last 4 meetings, including a 21-point blowout, so we have a little room to talk. With the way things are likely to unfold this year, I wouldn't talk too long and hard. I definitely wouldn't be trolling.


The last glimpse of basketball we had last year saw Creighton winning the MVC tournament, while WSU bowed out early. We also saw WSU bow out immediately in the NCAA tournament losing to a double digit seed, while Creighton defeated an Alabama team that WSU lost to earlier int the year.

"Room to talk"--depends on what you are talking about.


You've poured out your fair share of talking. How well did UNI do last year?
But thanks for your WSU-Creighton input, Panther fan.
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Re: Why is BJ ranked?

Postby ictjay » November 9th, 2012, 4:35 pm

shoxrox wrote:
CaliJay wrote:
shoxrox wrote:WSU has won 3 of the last 4 meetings, including a 21-point blowout, so we have a little room to talk. With the way things are likely to unfold this year, I wouldn't talk too long and hard. I definitely wouldn't be trolling.


Let's go back the last 20 meetings, can someone help with the head to head record between CU and WSU?


WSU fans get blasted on here for bringing up ancient history. I bring up recent history and now the roles get reversed.

Anybody can put up an arbitrary time period to skew their points. I figured the most recent would be the most relevant. I thought my post was pretty passive and respectful and wouldn't garner much response. So much for that.


But YOU brought it up and why? Its no big deal. BTW, tell Fever to man-up.
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Re: Why is BJ ranked?

Postby DoubleJayAlum » November 9th, 2012, 11:06 pm

shoxrox wrote:
CaliJay wrote:
shoxrox wrote:WSU has won 3 of the last 4 meetings, including a 21-point blowout, so we have a little room to talk. With the way things are likely to unfold this year, I wouldn't talk too long and hard. I definitely wouldn't be trolling.


Let's go back the last 20 meetings, can someone help with the head to head record between CU and WSU?


WSU fans get blasted on here for bringing up ancient history. I bring up recent history and now the roles get reversed.

Anybody can put up an arbitrary time period to skew their points. I figured the most recent would be the most relevant. I thought my post was pretty passive and respectful and wouldn't garner much response. So much for that.


You're pretty whiny.

That is all.
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Re: Why is BJ ranked?

Postby iSASO » November 9th, 2012, 11:18 pm

The easy answer is that Creighton is ranked because Doug McD is the greatest MVC player since Oscar Robertson.
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