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Postby LJay » January 5th, 2013, 12:09 pm

ISUb beat writer Todd Golden quote during W&B interview prior to Trees/Jays game when realignment was discussed:

For all of the fan hysteria about what conference their school is going to jump to if the MVC were to implode, I’ve never seen a single reputable source that has any of the MVC schools — aside from Creighton — going anywhere.

A scientific study could be done on the group-think it takes among some on a message board fan base like, say, Wichita State’s, to speculate amongst themselves about moving to the Mountain West Conference, then collectively convince themselves it could happen, and then think it’s a distinct possibility it will happen.

This despite the fact that WSU doesn’t play football, which drives the vast majority of these moves, and that it’s never once been mentioned as an expansion candidate for that conference, or any other that I’m aware of, by anyone other than people speculating on message boards or blogs. It’s pie-in-the-sky.


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Re: Conference Realignment - impact on MVC?

Postby TheAsianSensation » January 5th, 2013, 11:05 pm

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... basketball

Sources say that Fox, whose Fox Sports 1 channel is set to launch in August, has an initial high offer on the table of more than $500 million for a 12-year deal.


That's a big number.

If you're too lazy to do the math, that's $41.7 per year. In a 12 team conference, that's about $3.5 million per team per year. In a 10 team conference, that's a bit over $4 million per team per year. In a 16 team model, that goes to $2.6 million, but they'd presumably get more. I'd call $3 million the basement for the C7.

Fox is probably in a war against NBC and CBS for premier sports content to be 2nd in line behind ESPN as far as cable goes. Fox also has channels across the country remember, which means they can support a "national" conference (i.e., Gonzaga, Creighton, St Marys, et al) via their regional channels.
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Re: Conference Realignment - impact on MVC?

Postby CBB_Fan » January 6th, 2013, 12:11 am

TheAsianSensation wrote:http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8817624/fleeing-big-east-schools-working-lucrative-tv-deal-basketball

Sources say that Fox, whose Fox Sports 1 channel is set to launch in August, has an initial high offer on the table of more than $500 million for a 12-year deal.


That's a big number.

If you're too lazy to do the math, that's $41.7 per year. In a 12 team conference, that's about $3.5 million per team per year. In a 10 team conference, that's a bit over $4 million per team per year. In a 16 team model, that goes to $2.6 million, but they'd presumably get more. I'd call $3 million the basement for the C7.

Fox is probably in a war against NBC and CBS for premier sports content to be 2nd in line behind ESPN as far as cable goes. Fox also has channels across the country remember, which means they can support a "national" conference (i.e., Gonzaga, Creighton, St Marys, et al) via their regional channels.


From what I understand, Fox knows that $3 million or more per team is likely overpaying. However, they know that the majority of sports fans in the country (57% if I remember correctly) live on the east coast, and ESPN became a national sports powerhouse with help from the Big East.

By overpaying now, Fox is hoping to pick up an asset that will translate to a large television footprint in the east (and Midwest, in a smaller sense), which will allow them to grow their brand in other ways in the future.
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Re: Conference Realignment - impact on MVC?

Postby Turner » January 6th, 2013, 7:44 am

As pointed on on the Holy Land site, the Catholic 7 would get more than the new additions which is very interesting. If you're Creighton or Butler do you want to join a league where you're always getting less? Possibly not a good long term move.
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Re: Conference Realignment - impact on MVC?

Postby Turner » January 6th, 2013, 7:53 am

Turner wrote:As pointed on on the Holy Land site, the Catholic 7 would get more than the new additions which is very interesting. If you're Creighton or Butler do you want to join a league where you're always getting less? Possibly not a good long term move.

One Xavier fan is calling for them all to bypass the league and form their own with Creighton and Wichita St as members.
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Re: Conference Realignment - impact on MVC?

Postby Jet915 » January 6th, 2013, 10:12 am

I can see the C7 getting more money for the first couple of years because of all the startup costs and what not but after that, I can see alot of discontent between new and old members, especially if it's for 12 years. Depaul, Seton Hall and Providence do not deserve more money, they should be getting less for the lack of results.
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Re: Conference Realignment - impact on MVC?

Postby WhiskeySierraUniform » January 6th, 2013, 10:29 am

The fact that the 7 will get paid more is likely a way for them tp recoup part of their exit fee from the big east.
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Re: Conference Realignment - impact on MVC?

Postby WhiskeySierraUniform » January 6th, 2013, 10:31 am

LJay wrote:ISUb beat writer Todd Golden quote during W&B interview prior to Trees/Jays game when realignment was discussed:

For all of the fan hysteria about what conference their school is going to jump to if the MVC were to implode, I’ve never seen a single reputable source that has any of the MVC schools — aside from Creighton — going anywhere.

A scientific study could be done on the group-think it takes among some on a message board fan base like, say, Wichita State’s, to speculate amongst themselves about moving to the Mountain West Conference, then collectively convince themselves it could happen, and then think it’s a distinct possibility it will happen.

This despite the fact that WSU doesn’t play football, which drives the vast majority of these moves, and that it’s never once been mentioned as an expansion candidate for that conference, or any other that I’m aware of, by anyone other than people speculating on message boards or blogs. It’s pie-in-the-sky.[/quote

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efer to all of us). :buddies:


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Re: Conference Realignment - impact on MVC?

Postby TheAsianSensation » January 6th, 2013, 1:37 pm

There's no chance it would be a permanent tiered system. None. The C7 isn't that stupid.

They'll demand, and likely get, a better revenue share in the first couple of years as collateral for the risk they're taking, but they'll merge into a more equal system once their feet are on the ground.
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