Creighton @ Wichita State

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Re: Creighton @ Wichita State

Postby horacepinker » January 19th, 2013, 6:38 pm

shoxrox wrote:
3ontheway wrote:After initial money on the jays, money now rolling in on the shox to push it back to -3


Vegas is good.

They don't build those casinos with all their losings!
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Re: Creighton @ Wichita State

Postby shoxrox » January 19th, 2013, 6:42 pm

Just visited the CU board.

WOW. I thought WSU fans only bitched and whined about the referees. Quite a few CU posters think that was the difference in the game!

I thought Creighton fans were better than that? I thought that was only a WSU thing?

Comical. :lol:
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Re: Creighton @ Wichita State

Postby Bluejays2010 » January 19th, 2013, 6:48 pm

shoxrox wrote:Just visited the CU board.

WOW. I thought WSU fans only bitched and whined about the referees. Quite a few CU posters think that was the difference in the game!

I thought Creighton fans were better than that? I thought that was only a WSU thing?

Comical. :lol:


I thought it was pretty square. The Gibbs flagrant call was comical but if you go word for word of the rule I guess it applies, just a tough break. He hit him with his 2nd elbow while pulling his arms closer. All in all we had 2 good looks to tie it and failed. Fun game and nice win for Wichita.
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Re: Creighton @ Wichita State

Postby Shockerfan13 » January 19th, 2013, 7:02 pm

That was a GREAT college basketball game to have on ESPN2. Not the prettiest but both teams played extremely hard. Both teams represented the Valley well. I was impressed with Creighton's defense. They have improved quite a bit. For the most part our guards were a tad to quick but they collapsed decent enough to disrupt alot of shots. Shox rebounding was difference. Alot more offensive boards which gave them more shots which they needed today.

Definitely the top 2 teams in the Valley this year. If both keep playing well both should get good seeds.

Well played game Creighton
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Re: Creighton @ Wichita State

Postby rjl » January 19th, 2013, 7:10 pm

Bluejays2010 wrote:
shoxrox wrote:Just visited the CU board.

WOW. I thought WSU fans only bitched and whined about the referees. Quite a few CU posters think that was the difference in the game!

I thought Creighton fans were better than that? I thought that was only a WSU thing?

Comical. :lol:


I thought it was pretty square. The Gibbs flagrant call was comical but if you go word for word of the rule I guess it applies, just a tough break. He hit him with his 2nd elbow while pulling his arms closer. All in all we had 2 good looks to tie it and failed. Fun game and nice win for Wichita.


When I saw the replay I thought that there was no way WSU would get that call. Total flop by Cotton. I have not seen the wording of the rules, however.

In my mind, I feel that it makes up a little bit for the Altman Flops we endured during the 2000's.
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Re: Creighton @ Wichita State

Postby WestOmahaBluejay » January 19th, 2013, 7:15 pm

Shockerfan13 wrote:That was a GREAT college basketball game to have on ESPN2. Not the prettiest but both teams played extremely hard. Both teams represented the Valley well. I was impressed with Creighton's defense. They have improved quite a bit. For the most part our guards were a tad to quick but they collapsed decent enough to disrupt alot of shots. Shox rebounding was difference. Alot more offensive boards which gave them more shots which they needed today.

Definitely the top 2 teams in the Valley this year. If both keep playing well both should get good seeds.

Well played game Creighton


The MVC couldn't have asked for a better feature game, I was impressed by the effort both teams brought in the game. There certainly (as there always is in games) were some questionable calls out there, but the Jays shouldn't have expected to get many calls on the road in a difficult environment to play in.

I was impressed that Doug actually put in a decent scoring game against WSU for once, at least he did quiet some of his critics today with his performance. I would have liked to have seen Doug get the chances for the tie, but give your Shockers credit for defending him well in those situations.

As I mentioned earlier, this makes the March 2nd game all that much bigger for both teams, hoping that CU fans bring in for that game and turn the Century Link Center into a formidable home court advantage for once.
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Re: Creighton @ Wichita State

Postby Ricardo del Rio » January 19th, 2013, 8:31 pm

WestOmahaBluejay wrote:
Shockerfan13 wrote:That was a GREAT college basketball game to have on ESPN2. Not the prettiest but both teams played extremely hard. Both teams represented the Valley well. I was impressed with Creighton's defense. They have improved quite a bit. For the most part our guards were a tad to quick but they collapsed decent enough to disrupt alot of shots. Shox rebounding was difference. Alot more offensive boards which gave them more shots which they needed today.

Definitely the top 2 teams in the Valley this year. If both keep playing well both should get good seeds.

Well played game Creighton


The MVC couldn't have asked for a better feature game, I was impressed by the effort both teams brought in the game. There certainly (as there always is in games) were some questionable calls out there, but the Jays shouldn't have expected to get many calls on the road in a difficult environment to play in.

I was impressed that Doug actually put in a decent scoring game against WSU for once, at least he did quiet some of his critics today with his performance. I would have liked to have seen Doug get the chances for the tie, but give your Shockers credit for defending him well in those situations.

As I mentioned earlier, this makes the March 2nd game all that much bigger for both teams, hoping that CU fans bring in for that game and turn the Century Link Center into a formidable home court advantage for once.


I think a lot of folks don't realize just how good Dougie is. He flat out is a scoring machine.

I agree that Dougie should have taken the last two 3 balls. He was nails from 3 all night and Wragge was struggling.
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Re: Creighton @ Wichita State

Postby Ricardo del Rio » January 19th, 2013, 8:39 pm

Kyle wrote:Our eyes don't see like a telephoto lens does.

Without going into a lot of technical details, it all boils down to compression. Low angle on a tele lens makes the players seem closer together than they really are. Everything seems scrunched up and it's impossible to see the spacing on the floor. This compression is only combated by increasing the angle and giving more of an over head/birds eye view of the floor.

Believe me. It looks bad. Switch back and forth between this game and the Louisville/Syracuse game. The difference is night and day.


Based upon your comments, the only way WSU could solve the problem is to build a couple of platforms and suspend them from the structural steel above. In my wildest dreams, I could never imagine WSU doing so. I do believe it is feasible.
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Re: Creighton @ Wichita State

Postby iSASO » January 19th, 2013, 10:41 pm

Shocking that CU never had the lead and the ball in the game.

Very clear that Malcolm Armstead was the best guard on the floor in this one. I was pretty sure that Chatman would give WSU fits, but it really didn't work out that way.

Doug is the real deal of course, but he played some ole' defense on Carl Harl. I had heard he mails it in so that he can stay in the game and score, but I didn't really believe it until I saw it.

Can't wait for March 2.
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Re: Creighton @ Wichita State

Postby Kyle » January 19th, 2013, 10:45 pm

shoxrox wrote:
3ontheway wrote:After initial money on the jays, money now rolling in on the shox to push it back to -3


Vegas is good.


You clearly don't understand how sports betting works.
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