Bracketology 2012-2013

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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby Pinkie » February 12th, 2013, 12:38 pm

Right now the MVC might get three in but the problem is that all the schools still could lose to each other or to teams lower in the mvc plus at least 2 of the 3 will absorb a loss in STL. I worry that when its all said and done we get 2.
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby CaliRdBrd » February 12th, 2013, 12:44 pm

Lunardi has ISUb dropped to a 12. What happened?
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby shockem » February 12th, 2013, 12:50 pm

isumvc1 wrote:
TheAsianSensation wrote:Oh by the way, if you want to have fun, tell me what to do with Virginia's profile.

- Their RPI is 81, which would be highest for an at-large team in history.
- They are 7-3 in the ACC, the #4 conference
- Their SoS is 154, which is awful for an ACC team.
- They are UNDEFEATED against the RPI Top 100 (6-0) and against the RPI Top 50 (3-0)
- They have SIX sub-100 losses
- They have a reasonable collection of signature wins of @Wisconsin, UNC, NC State
- They are WINLESS (0-3) against the 25th strongest conference (CAA) in the country

So tell me what to do. You'd either have to project a team to get an at-large bid with the worst RPI in history, or you have to leave out a team that's 6-0 against the RPI Top 100. Go ahead, tell me.

They haven't played Miami or Duke yet, so those are two games that will give some answers, but my heavens.


Wow, now that is an interesting case. Here's to hoping they go on a massive losing streak and play themselves out of the tourney. And I thought Indiana State's scenario was crazy


Outside looking in at this point. The wins are offset by the losses, which means their overall body is average. The 2 big games coming up wiill enhance their SOS considerably. Winning 1 or both of those games puts them in the dance as long as they don't have add'l bad losses along the way.
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby MSUDuo » February 12th, 2013, 12:53 pm

What is your "lock" defined as? As in, no matter what happens the rest of the way, they will get in no matter? Or if the season ended today, there isn't a chance they'd be left out?
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby isumvc1 » February 12th, 2013, 1:35 pm

TheAsianSensation wrote:Oh by the way, if you want to have fun, tell me what to do with Virginia's profile.

- Their RPI is 81, which would be highest for an at-large team in history.
- They are 7-3 in the ACC, the #4 conference
- Their SoS is 154, which is awful for an ACC team.
- They are UNDEFEATED against the RPI Top 100 (6-0) and against the RPI Top 50 (3-0)
- They have SIX sub-100 losses
- They have a reasonable collection of signature wins of @Wisconsin, UNC, NC State
- They are WINLESS (0-3) against the 25th strongest conference (CAA) in the country

So tell me what to do. You'd either have to project a team to get an at-large bid with the worst RPI in history, or you have to leave out a team that's 6-0 against the RPI Top 100. Go ahead, tell me.

They haven't played Miami or Duke yet, so those are two games that will give some answers, but my heavens.


here is an article just posted on NBC about UVA and ISU resumes

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports. ... e-resumes/
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby FearDaTrees » February 12th, 2013, 1:41 pm

CaliRdBrd wrote:Lunardi has ISUb dropped to a 12. What happened?



We beat SIU at home by 1.
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby CaliRdBrd » February 12th, 2013, 1:45 pm

FearDaTrees wrote:
CaliRdBrd wrote:Lunardi has ISUb dropped to a 12. What happened?



We beat SIU at home by 1.


Supposedly margin of victory doesn't factor into these decisions. Either way, great season for you guys. Keep it rolling (except if we see you in St. Louis).
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby TheAsianSensation » February 12th, 2013, 2:30 pm

MSUDuo wrote:What is your "lock" defined as? As in, no matter what happens the rest of the way, they will get in no matter? Or if the season ended today, there isn't a chance they'd be left out?

I define it as "it will take something that completely goes against all trends we've seen this year from this team". Eventually, that thought merges into the "if the season ended today, they're a lock" thought.

So for example, I had Wichita as a lock, then they started losing. If they continue, they'll be on the bubble, and it will be because their trend goes against the trend they had shown the entire year.
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby TheAsianSensation » February 12th, 2013, 2:32 pm

CaliRdBrd wrote:Lunardi has ISUb dropped to a 12. What happened?

Nothing. Note that he has a play in game slotted as an 11 seed, better than InSU. This usually means there's bracket conflict that could only be resolved by sliding InSU down a seed line. They're a true 11 on the S-Curve.

Actually on second look, he violates one by having InSu and Creighton in the same regional.
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby BCPanther » February 12th, 2013, 2:59 pm

TheAsianSensation wrote:
CaliRdBrd wrote:Lunardi has ISUb dropped to a 12. What happened?

Nothing. Note that he has a play in game slotted as an 11 seed, better than InSU. This usually means there's bracket conflict that could only be resolved by sliding InSU down a seed line. They're a true 11 on the S-Curve.

Actually on second look, he violates one by having InSu and Creighton in the same regional.


I believe he is correct there. You can have two teams from the same league in the same regional as long as they don't meet before the Sweet 16. I believe that rule was changed when the Big East got 9 that one year.

Indiana State is a 12 because they are the auto-bid right now, they are not an at large by his rules because they would be the 1 seed if the Valley Tournament started today.
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