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MVC 10 Members or 12? Front-runners?

Postby Western4Life » March 3rd, 2013, 12:43 pm

As a Western fan I have peaked in on this board for a while as many of the teams are former conference foes to the Leathernecks. The Macomb market will likely always keep Western off the MVC radar. I see some possible catastrophes occurring based on the MVC's dealings for Western so with that in mind I am curious about the popular opinion here on several matters. The pipeline is never fun when you are on the tail end.

First, I don't expect Western to be considered for any opening in the MVC. It does make sense for travel purposes but cache will always carry the day. Budget issues are realistic for the entire state of IL which other MVC members know all too well. The facilities in place are in a sad state. So long story short I am not here for a pissing contest etc.

With that out of the way I want to inquire about three matters. This may be off topic to a degree but it impacts all of the schools.

1. Is the MVC looking to sit at 10 or 12 members?
2. Who is the preference a private or public institution?
3. Would the MVC offer football on their own or do they value current affiliations?

My goals as stated elsewhere.... MVC, Lose CU. Add ORU, Belmont, Murray St. >>> Create MVC Football with SIU, ISU, InState, UNI, YSU, MSU, Murray St.... 7 members and automatic playoff birth. The site would have to add a football forum is this happens.

I would like untie the SL's hands, they are forced to be MVC's punk via who the MVFC will allow into the SL. I am comfortable with Western not getting into the MVC but I have grown very tired of the MVC schools setting the SL membership to ensure their superiority. We get it... :Bam: The SL almost died until the MVC schools swayed on Univ of South Dakota. With the moves stated above the SL could add another football school, likely Northern CO and have their own automatic playoff birth as well. A scheduling agreement could be reached to rotate teams year to year for non con scheduling.

I am trying to avoid a Dakota defection to either the MVC of Big Sky. Western will not get an invite from anyone left on the board. I do not want to join the WAC... Western is in a very tough place depending on how the MVC moves.
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Re: MVC 10 Members or 12? Front-runners?

Postby flybird1 » March 3rd, 2013, 4:51 pm

The MVC needs to get a solid 10th member, then get to twelve, the MVC must not be passive about this.
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Re: MVC 10 Members or 12? Front-runners?

Postby Haha » March 3rd, 2013, 5:13 pm

flybird1 wrote:The MVC needs to get a solied 10th member, then get to twelve, the MVC must not be passive about this.


No they don't need 12 nor does 12 do anything but make the pie slices smaller.

Quit freaking out, there isn't 1 let alone 3 worth adding unless you have to backfill. Stick with 10 it would give you 18 conf games instead of 16, wouldn't weaken the pot, etc.
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Re: MVC 10 Members or 12? Front-runners?

Postby jwa123 » March 3rd, 2013, 6:36 pm

Actually I would prefer to leave it at 9. If a 10th is brought in, I am sure it will be a private school or at a minimum a public school that doesn't have football.
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Re: MVC 10 Members or 12? Front-runners?

Postby uniftw » March 3rd, 2013, 6:46 pm

jwa123 wrote:Actually I would prefer to leave it at 9. If a 10th is brought in, I am sure it will be a private school or at a minimum a public school that doesn't have football.

The problem with 9 as a very tough mid-major starting next year is getting OOC games that are worth a damn.

We all know teams don't want to go to MVC venues...

However, with the loss of the bracketbuster, bracketbuster return games (though there is a year, or two for some, left on those), loss of MVC/MWC, and 2 conference games that means there is 5 extra OOC games to find...


That's going to be damn hard minus bringing in 250+ RPI schools, which does nothing except hurt.

Hopefully the MVC/A10/MWC can work a deal to get something for just us. That could take up 2/3 games, which would greatly help
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Re: MVC 10 Members or 12? Front-runners?

Postby DUBulldog » March 3rd, 2013, 6:52 pm

jwa123 wrote:Actually I would prefer to leave it at 9. If a 10th is brought in, I am sure it will be a private school or at a minimum a public school that doesn't have football.


I think the league would prefer an even number....otherwise, you've got one team not playing on every game day.
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Re: MVC 10 Members or 12? Front-runners?

Postby Haha » March 3rd, 2013, 8:31 pm

a few post above is exactly why 10 is superior to 12

12 = 16 conf games and divisions

10 = 18 conf games and home/home

Doesn't matter who you add, it won't increase the league an extra bid. So go find the best of whats out there and add only 1. Anyone pushing for 12 should just accept 9 as that would result in same amount of conf games.

I think my preference in order would be the following and really don't care as long as it's only one.

Belmont, Denver, ORU, Murray St., Valpo, Loyola, UIC
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Re: MVC 10 Members or 12? Front-runners?

Postby Fargobison » March 3rd, 2013, 8:42 pm

The Big 10 has 12 teams has has 18 conference games so does the PAC 12.
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Re: MVC 10 Members or 12? Front-runners?

Postby uniftw » March 3rd, 2013, 8:48 pm

Fargobison wrote:The Big 10 has 12 teams has has 18 conference games so does the PAC 12.

Yep...and you don't play a true round robin....which is a travishamockery
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Re: MVC 10 Members or 12? Front-runners?

Postby tribecalledquest » March 3rd, 2013, 9:37 pm

I am a huge fan and believer of the double round-robin. I love it.

I don't see the benefit of a 12-team league for a conference like the MVC. It isn't like it is needed for a football playoff and you would be sharing revenues with two more teams.

If Jays leave find one. Keep it at 10.
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