CU Exit Fee?

[isumvc1]

If each unit is $250k then,
Each unit is split into 10 equal shares = $25k/share
Team earning the unit gets 2 shares
CU will have their shares split between the remaining 9 teams
At present, each of the 9 schools will recieve 4 $25k shares plus the $25k x 2 split 9 ways (.22 shares each) that belonged to CU. WSU gets an additional 4 shares by earning the units.

Or
WSU gets 8.22 shares = 205.5k
all others get 4.22 shares = 105.5k
I do not know if this is spread over 6 years or each yr.

I assume after this years' tourney the MVC loses the 4 units from the 2007 tourney. But so far we'll have 4 units from the 2013 tourney. So hopefully WSU and CU can keep winning.

If both CU and WSU lose this weekend then the MVC will have 13 NCAA units from the past 6 years.

the next 2 years we only lose 1 unit per year, in 2008 and 2009 the MVC only gained 1 NCAA unit from the tourney

[Someone_Else]

For perspective, I believe the A10 splits their units 75/25 with 75% going to the team that earns them and the remaining 25% split with the league. I would guess that the new Big East would be similar. Regardless, CU is going to be getting more than enough TV money to make up for the loss of their credits from the MVC.

[cu36]

I guess it can be assumed that CU doesn't have enough money to hire an accountant... This is a huge problem because, as everyone can see, CU has no money at all. CU will flounder in this new league and everyone will be saying "I told you so".

I'm not saying that CU is going to break into the Big E and dominate, but to say that money is going to hold them back is silly. Do you really think that hasn't been addressed by people a little more 'in the know' than you are?

I do say that knowing that cold and many other fans know more about CU financial records than CU does. So I apologize in advance for being wrong.

[MVCfans]

If each unit is $250k then,
Each unit is split into 10 equal shares = $25k/share
Team earning the unit gets 2 shares
CU will have their shares split between the remaining 9 teams
At present, each of the 9 schools will recieve 4 $25k shares plus the $25k x 2 split 9 ways (.22 shares each) that belonged to CU. WSU gets an additional 4 shares by earning the units.

Or
WSU gets 8.22 shares = 205.5k
all others get 4.22 shares = 105.5k
I do not know if this is spread over 6 years or each yr.

I assume after this years' tourney the MVC loses the 4 units from the 2007 tourney. But so far we'll have 4 units from the 2013 tourney. So hopefully WSU and CU can keep winning.

If both CU and WSU lose this weekend then the MVC will have 13 NCAA units from the past 6 years.

the next 2 years we only lose 1 unit per year, in 2008 and 2009 the MVC only gained 1 NCAA unit from the tourney

The timing couldn't have been better as you pointed out, since the windfall from having 4 teams in the NCAAs in 2006 will disappear. This year could provide even more financially - at least 5 right now units, with the possibility of more if CU upsets Duke or Wichita State continues winning.

[isumvc1]

If each unit is $250k then,
Each unit is split into 10 equal shares = $25k/share
Team earning the unit gets 2 shares
CU will have their shares split between the remaining 9 teams
At present, each of the 9 schools will recieve 4 $25k shares plus the $25k x 2 split 9 ways (.22 shares each) that belonged to CU. WSU gets an additional 4 shares by earning the units.

Or
WSU gets 8.22 shares = 205.5k
all others get 4.22 shares = 105.5k
I do not know if this is spread over 6 years or each yr.

I assume after this years' tourney the MVC loses the 4 units from the 2007 tourney. But so far we'll have 4 units from the 2013 tourney. So hopefully WSU and CU can keep winning.

If both CU and WSU lose this weekend then the MVC will have 13 NCAA units from the past 6 years.

the next 2 years we only lose 1 unit per year, in 2008 and 2009 the MVC only gained 1 NCAA unit from the tourney

The timing couldn't have been better as you pointed out, since the windfall from having 4 teams in the NCAAs in 2006 will disappear. This year could provide even more financially - at least 5 right now units, with the possibility of more if CU upsets Duke or Wichita State continues winning.

I think the 8 units from 2006 have already disappeared. We get 2013 units, plus the last 5 years, so '12, '11, '10, '09, '08.

In '08 and '09 we only earned 1 unit, so we won't lose much the next 2 years. Hopefully the MVC steps it up again in 2014 with multiple bids and wins in the NCAA

[MVCfans]

The timing couldn't have been better as you pointed out, since the windfall from having 4 teams in the NCAAs in 2006 will disappear. This year could provide even more financially - at least 5 right now units, with the possibility of more if CU upsets Duke or Wichita State continues winning.

I think the 8 units from 2006 have already disappeared. We get 2013 units, plus the last 5 years, so '12, '11, '10, '09, '08.

In '08 and '09 we only earned 1 unit, so we won't lose much the next 2 years. Hopefully the MVC steps it up again in 2014 with multiple bids and wins in the NCAA

You are correct. It will be interesting to see what happens when the MVC adds a school or more than 1 school. I assume they will immediately get a full share of the MVC units, but who knows? Part of me wonders if the Presidents wouldn't mind sitting at 9 teams for 2013-14.

[Someone_Else]

With the nBE stopping at 10 it makes it hard for the A10 and MVC to make a move. I think the big questions are "Can Gonzaga place their non basketball teams in another league?"
"Is Fox's money firm? Meaning does the nBE dilute each school's share by going to 12 or will Fox increase to keep money equal?"
"Can St. Louis keep up the success?"
Does the nBE want to remain east coast(adding Richmond) or move more midwest (adding STL and Dayton) or do they stay put?"

Moving to the nBE is a no brainer for Creighton with more money and more prestige playing traditional powers and appearing consistently on a better network. If the nBe decides to add some combo of STL and richmond or dayton would the A10 stay east coast and add a couple teams like GMU and Sienna or would they decide to move midwest and pod adding some MVC teams if the nBE is content at 10?

I would think that the MVC and A10 stays put at least for this next year to see what happens next.

[isumvc1]

With the nBE stopping at 10 it makes it hard for the A10 and MVC to make a move. I think the big questions are "Can Gonzaga place their non basketball teams in another league?"
"Is Fox's money firm? Meaning does the nBE dilute each school's share by going to 12 or will Fox increase to keep money equal?"
"Can St. Louis keep up the success?"
Does the nBE want to remain east coast(adding Richmond) or move more midwest (adding STL and Dayton) or do they stay put?"

Moving to the nBE is a no brainer for Creighton with more money and more prestige playing traditional powers and appearing consistently on a better network. If the nBe decides to add some combo of STL and richmond or dayton would the A10 stay east coast and add a couple teams like GMU and Sienna or would they decide to move midwest and pod adding some MVC teams if the nBE is content at 10?

I would think that the MVC and A10 stays put at least for this next year to see what happens next.

it does seem like the MVC's and A-10's hands are tied until the nBE decides what they want to do eventually. I would bet you're right. I am starting to think the MVC will stay at 9 this next year, then see what happens in the spring of 2014. Maybe we will get EXTREMELY lucky and both Dayton and SLU will be left out of the nBE. I still doubt they'd ever want to be in the MVC though.

The MVC could still add one for now though, and then go to 12 ONLY if schools like Dayton and SLU would want to join.

[isumvc1]

taken from the Panther message board, looks like each NCAA unit this year is $245,514

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/ ... 5-million/