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Re: 1/1/15

Postby Khan4Cats » January 2nd, 2015, 12:06 pm

I am going to have to apologize for Kyle. Think he comes out of the Hawkeye fandom tradition of no loss is tolerable, even if on the road to a team with an almost identical record. He is all but calling for a complete shakeup of the program on Panthernation. :huh:

Truth is as it always has been: UNI plays a style that will almost always have close games. So does Evansville. No surprise that this was that way. UE couldn't make a shot in the first half, UNI in the second. UE was given 25 opportunities for free throws, UNI 7. That and UNI's inability to keep UE off the boards was made the difference.

It won't be the first game UNI is in that is a close one. I doubt it is the last road loss to an upper division MVC team. The key now is to win at home, beat the lower 4-5 teams on the road and see if you can knock off a few of the other upper division teams at home.

It would have been nice to stay in the rankings, will have to see how far we drop. But after a tough game on Sunday, we have 5 games we should win in a row (3 at home, at Drake and at Bradley). Win these next 6 and be sitting at 17-2 and we will likely be ranked again.
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Re: 1/1/15

Postby Wufan » January 2nd, 2015, 12:13 pm

I was the one that said Tuttle played "dirty", and that's a little unfair since it's not a foul unless it's called. What I've noticed when watching Tuttle is that he uses the hook or shoulder on almost every occasion that he has a player on his back, and it's not subtle. Did Mock do some acting? Absolutely, but when the defender was playing it straight up Tuttle was getting an "unfair" advantage. Why not be demonstrative?

Tuttle is a much more skilled player than Mock. Mock is more dominant in the post. I did not see Tuttle getting triple teamed as was stated above. If he was then I missed it and he missed on some assists.
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Re: 1/1/15

Postby PurpleAndWhite » January 2nd, 2015, 12:15 pm

Wufan wrote:Nobody expects anyone to roll over. What we expect is that ALL teams play up to their potential in the non-con so that when a team mucks it up it's not a killer (UE beating UNI doesn't do that). Evansville is a good team. They did just fine by their schedule, but their schedule just wasn't legit. Not sure if UE should be faulted for scheduling so poorly, or praised for bringing a top 100 team to conference play.


I blame a lazy AD who was a president of a bank with no AD experience before his work at UE. He knew it was his last year.

With our new AD from Oregon St. I expect DRASTIC OOC improvements next year. He has already proven himself quite capable his first semester on campus.
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Re: 1/1/15

Postby uniftw » January 2nd, 2015, 12:15 pm

Wufan wrote:I was the one that said Tuttle played "dirty", and that's a little unfair since it's not a foul unless it's called. What I've noticed when watching Tuttle is that he uses the hook or shoulder on almost every occasion that he has a player on his back, and it's not subtle. Did Mock do some acting? Absolutely, but when the defender was playing it straight up Tuttle was getting an "unfair" advantage. Why not be demonstrative?

Tuttle is a much more skilled player than Mock. Mock is more dominant in the post. I did not see Tuttle getting triple teamed as was stated above. If he was then I missed it and he missed on some assists.

So....using a post move than 99% of post players use makes him dirty?

Da fuq?
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Re: 1/1/15

Postby PantherSigEp » January 2nd, 2015, 12:19 pm

Khan4Cats wrote: UE was given 25 opportunities for free throws, UNI 7. That and UNI's inability to keep UE off the boards was made the difference.


Wow. I wouldn't have guessed that, even though I felt UE got some fortunate and critical calls. It was an inconsistently called game by Hairpiece Higgins and Co. but it was consistently inconsistent for both teams. The only foul I really had issue with was the reach in by Tuttle where there was no contact and the foul at the end of the 1st half. The rest were confusing but those two were just bad. Also thought Morgan/Buss had a couple over the backs, same with Mock. Overall I think the number of fouls evened out but I never imagined that the Aces got that type of advantage at the line.
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Re: 1/1/15

Postby Wufan » January 2nd, 2015, 12:21 pm

uniftw wrote:
Wufan wrote:I was the one that said Tuttle played "dirty", and that's a little unfair since it's not a foul unless it's called. What I've noticed when watching Tuttle is that he uses the hook or shoulder on almost every occasion that he has a player on his back, and it's not subtle. Did Mock do some acting? Absolutely, but when the defender was playing it straight up Tuttle was getting an "unfair" advantage. Why not be demonstrative?

Tuttle is a much more skilled player than Mock. Mock is more dominant in the post. I did not see Tuttle getting triple teamed as was stated above. If he was then I missed it and he missed on some assists.

So....using a post move than 99% of post players use makes him dirty?

Da fuq?


First, I'm doubtful it's used by 99% of post players. Second, he uses it all the time and it's shamefully obvious. Third, I backed off on the use of the word dirty. Fourth, it's still illeagal.
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Re: 1/1/15

Postby Dean Wormer » January 2nd, 2015, 12:37 pm

Kyle wrote:Well, Evansville gonna Evansville. An overtime loss to VCU dropped us a half dozen spots in the polls. I shutter at the thought of how far we'll plummet after losing to a team most voters haven't even heard of.

I get that EU loves playing the roll of spoiler and it's often the highlight of their entire season, but do EU fans realize how damaging they've been to the MVC the past five years?


One additional tidbit Skippy. UE leads the all time series with you 24-21. That is on the heels of the worst stretch in Aces history and the BEST in UNI's history. Looks like you have been Evansville'd more than the Aces have been UNI'd.

Wonder what it will look like after the next five years?
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Re: 1/1/15

Postby Dean Wormer » January 2nd, 2015, 12:39 pm

ACECARD wrote:
NeutralObserver wrote:You are the master of your own fate. You crybaby fans that keep complaining about your team losing to a so-called "lesser" team is absolutely comical. You can mark it down right this moment before the season gets up a head of steam that teams like Loyola, Indiana State, Sou Illinois & Bradley are going to muck up the standings as much as they possibly can and none of them will be going anywhere in the post-season. Do you expect them to roll over and give anything less than their best effort against everyone of your so-call "contender"" teams? Well save yourself some concern about "they might ruin our season" to "yes they will ruin your season if your leave a crack in the door."

Enjoy the run for the roses in 2015 !

:Violin: :Bam: :Cheers: :huh: :Beer:

Best post of the year. :+1:


I would completely agree other than he put Loyola in that group. I think they certainly are looking at post-season possibilities as well.
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Re: 1/1/15

Postby Ace75 » January 2nd, 2015, 2:58 pm

One additional tidbit Skippy. UE leads the all time series with you 24-21. That is on the heels of the worst stretch in Aces history and the BEST in UNI's history. Looks like you have been Evansville'd more than the Aces have been UNI'd. 

Wonder what it will look like after the next five years?

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Re: 1/1/15

Postby PantherSigEp » January 2nd, 2015, 3:40 pm

I don't get the dick measuring just to address a troll but if you're wanting to label only UNI's best stretch then you start with the 2003-04 season from which UNI has been 15-8 against Evansville. Before 2003 we were fairly regularly at the bottom of the MVC. Since coming to the conference Evansville has 1 NCAA appearance correct? A first round loss to Kansas or someone?

Congrats on the win but I don't see the point in trying to rub dirt into the wounds just because one or two idiots comes out and makes a fool of themselves. I'm certain it wouldn't be appreciated if the shoe were on the other foot. Evansville looks like a strong contender this year, but if you think that absolves them from having their history, as a perennial punching bag for the conference, from being referenced occasionally then you must've forgotten how the internet works. It would appear they are well on the way to erasing that moniker though. Just keep taking care of business.
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