Bradley Train Wreck

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Re: Bradley Train Wreck

Postby DUShock » February 17th, 2015, 12:49 pm

I'd go after Jim Les.
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Re: Bradley Train Wreck

Postby Cdizzle » February 17th, 2015, 1:06 pm

I'd become a WSU fan.
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Re: Bradley Train Wreck

Postby bufan42 » February 17th, 2015, 1:07 pm

DUShock wrote:I'd go after Jim Les.



Won't happen. After Les takes UC Davis to the NCAA tournament and wins a game or two he will be getting a job far better than the Bradley job :P
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Re: Bradley Train Wreck

Postby PantherSigEp » February 17th, 2015, 10:23 pm

bufan42 wrote:
DUShock wrote:I'd go after Jim Les.



Won't happen. After Les takes UC Davis to the NCAA tournament and wins a game or two he will be getting a job far better than the Bradley job :P


If he's making the tournament then I'd argue he already has a better job than the Bradley one
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Re: Bradley Train Wreck

Postby squirrel » February 18th, 2015, 9:24 am

Hard to argue against that. Davis also has a master's in brewing program, and it is also the #1 Cool School. FWIW.
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Re: Bradley Train Wreck

Postby Valleyball » February 19th, 2015, 6:52 pm

Not sure if anyone is serious. But I am not buying the Jim Les is a good coach story. I am sooo glad he is gone. But yes Geno did worse.
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Re: Bradley Train Wreck

Postby tribecalledquest » February 20th, 2015, 10:19 am

Jim Les has an under .500 record at Davis. Two god awful seasons, one average one, and this season. Thanks quite a bit to Hersey Hawkins' son who is by far the best player in the Big West.

Good for Jim Les but he is coaching at the appropriate level for him right now.

The name to watch out for at Bradley is Brian Wardle from Green Bay.
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Re: Bradley Train Wreck

Postby bufan42 » February 20th, 2015, 12:25 pm

It takes time to rebuild bad or non existing programs.

Year 4 in a coach is the year you need to see significant improvement. Les is accomplishing that and then some at UCD. Doing an excellent job. The W/L record in a rebuild is irrelevant its all about year 4.


Brian Wardle without question should be the next BU head coach. Hopefully he brings his associate head coach with him.
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Re: Bradley Train Wreck

Postby rlh04d » February 20th, 2015, 8:16 pm

bufan42 wrote:It takes time to rebuild bad or non existing programs.

Year 4 in a coach is the year you need to see significant improvement. Les is accomplishing that and then some at UCD. Doing an excellent job. The W/L record in a rebuild is irrelevant its all about year 4.


Brian Wardle without question should be the next BU head coach. Hopefully he brings his associate head coach with him.

Agreed. I don't care how a coach does in seasons 1-3. By year three the players actually recruited by a coach are true sophomores (as a coach almost never gets a chance to recruit for year one). Performance in years 1-3 are strictly about the talent left by the previous coach and the in-game management of the coach. Performance in years 4+ are an accurate judge of a coach as the builder of a program.

So many teams get screwed by overvaluing those first few years of performance.

Marshall had a 53% record his first three years at WSU, and that's with a 25 win season in year 3 with some JUCO help. He has a 84%+ record in the five years after that. First few years are meaningless.
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Re: Bradley Train Wreck

Postby ilstubirds250 » February 20th, 2015, 10:20 pm

rlh04d wrote:
bufan42 wrote:It takes time to rebuild bad or non existing programs.

Year 4 in a coach is the year you need to see significant improvement. Les is accomplishing that and then some at UCD. Doing an excellent job. The W/L record in a rebuild is irrelevant its all about year 4.


Brian Wardle without question should be the next BU head coach. Hopefully he brings his associate head coach with him.

Agreed. I don't care how a coach does in seasons 1-3. By year three the players actually recruited by a coach are true sophomores (as a coach almost never gets a chance to recruit for year one). Performance in years 1-3 are strictly about the talent left by the previous coach and the in-game management of the coach. Performance in years 4+ are an accurate judge of a coach as the builder of a program.

So many teams get screwed by overvaluing those first few years of performance.

Marshall had a 53% record his first three years at WSU, and that's with a 25 win season in year 3 with some JUCO help. He has a 84%+ record in the five years after that. First few years are meaningless.


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