Would you let Marty finish the season?

[uniftw]

I don't think his plan of leaving 3 point shooters wide open had anything to do with the job Moc & Moore (had one block) did against Tuttle. How many times did the attempted double in the paint actually get to Tuttle? Most of the time the double never happened as the ball was kicked as soon as the perimeter shooter was left alone.

The plan should have been to play one on one on Tuttle (maybe with a little help from the other post) and stayed on the shooters.

OR play a 3-2 zone so the perimeter was covered all the time.

The other issue is the spacing on the ACES offense, there is no room in the middle for another person. I hope Marty took note of the Panther's spacing, especially in the second half, many times there wasn't a man INSIDE the 3 point arc unless he was cutting. Even at that moment it was only 1, not 4 like UE has within 3 feet of the lane at all times.

Let me know the next time someone plays Tut one on one the entire game and wins that battle.

[rlh04d]

I don't think his plan of leaving 3 point shooters wide open had anything to do with the job Moc & Moore (had one block) did against Tuttle. How many times did the attempted double in the paint actually get to Tuttle? Most of the time the double never happened as the ball was kicked as soon as the perimeter shooter was left alone.

The plan should have been to play one on one on Tuttle (maybe with a little help from the other post) and stayed on the shooters.

OR play a 3-2 zone so the perimeter was covered all the time.

The other issue is the spacing on the ACES offense, there is no room in the middle for another person. I hope Marty took note of the Panther's spacing, especially in the second half, many times there wasn't a man INSIDE the 3 point arc unless he was cutting. Even at that moment it was only 1, not 4 like UE has within 3 feet of the lane at all times.

Let me know the next time someone plays Tut one on one the entire game and wins that battle.

Next year, most likely.

In the D-League or overseas.

[Wufan]

Marty's plan was absolutely fine last night. They actually did a pretty good job on Tuttle. There was just no way that UE or anybody else was winning in Cedar Falls.

And don't rag on his kid, he's pretty obviously the third best player on the team and he does a really nice job in a bunch of different aspects.

I don't think his plan of leaving 3 point shooters wide open had anything to do with the job Moc & Moore (had one block) did against Tuttle. How many times did the attempted double in the paint actually get to Tuttle? Most of the time the double never happened as the ball was kicked as soon as the perimeter shooter was left alone.

The plan should have been to play one on one on Tuttle (maybe with a little help from the other post) and stayed on the shooters.

OR play a 3-2 zone so the perimeter was covered all the time.

The other issue is the spacing on the ACES offense, there is no room in the middle for another person. I hope Marty took note of the Panther's spacing, especially in the second half, many times there wasn't a man INSIDE the 3 point arc unless he was cutting. Even at that moment it was only 1, not 4 like UE has within 3 feet of the lane at all times.

UNI has lost one MVC game all season...to Evansville. Marty deserves plenty of criticism this year, but not for losing in Cedar Falls.

[bryce]

Marty's plan was absolutely fine last night. They actually did a pretty good job on Tuttle. There was just no way that UE or anybody else was winning in Cedar Falls.

And don't rag on his kid, he's pretty obviously the third best player on the team and he does a really nice job in a bunch of different aspects.

Simmons in no way is the 3rd best player on the team. Brzoja, Wing and Benzon are much better defenders and rebounders at the forward position with Brzoja also being a more prolific scorer. My objection is not against Blake, he's not the one responsible for him playing more average minutes per game that anyone except DJ. Yes, even more minutes than Mock. It's with Marty who has left himself open to criticism by playing Blake so much instead of letting him be more of a role player off the bench of which he is better suited.

Marty's stubbornness by playing Blake so much is not only hurting the team but also causing many fans to dislike seeing Blake on the floor which has to have a negative impact by putting added pressure on Blake.
I believe that the only way a coach can remove the rumor of nepotism is when the son is such a great player that there is no doubt of his playing time or as a bench player with limited playing time, otherwise there will always be accusations.
The other point was that on his post game radio interview after a loss that Marty almost always places the blame on the players for not executing his game plan. I've yet to hear him say that the game plan he drew up was the problem.

[uniftw]

I don't think his plan of leaving 3 point shooters wide open had anything to do with the job Moc & Moore (had one block) did against Tuttle. How many times did the attempted double in the paint actually get to Tuttle? Most of the time the double never happened as the ball was kicked as soon as the perimeter shooter was left alone.

The plan should have been to play one on one on Tuttle (maybe with a little help from the other post) and stayed on the shooters.

OR play a 3-2 zone so the perimeter was covered all the time.

The other issue is the spacing on the ACES offense, there is no room in the middle for another person. I hope Marty took note of the Panther's spacing, especially in the second half, many times there wasn't a man INSIDE the 3 point arc unless he was cutting. Even at that moment it was only 1, not 4 like UE has within 3 feet of the lane at all times.

Let me know the next time someone plays Tut one on one the entire game and wins that battle.

Next year, most likely.

In the D-League or overseas.

Seth will likely face someone in the NCAA tournament that can match him.

I just don't know of any MVC team that can say "just play him one on one and defend the shooters". WSU has the talented players to do it, but Seth has a massive experience factor to kick the ball right back out, repost, and find a way to win that battle.

We saw that with Mock the other night. Mock may have had initial position when Tut got the ball, but Tut was real quick to kick out and repost in just a slightly different spot forcing Mock out of his comfort zone, out of position just enough to blow by for a reverse dunk, or force a double which leads to a no look instant cross court pass to an open Bohannon for a 3.

The absolute best part of Tuttle's game is his vision and understanding of where people are on the floor. Some of the passes he makes, ball fakes on passes, etc... are things I've never seen a UNI post player be able to do - and very very few MVC post players.

The Evansville game had perfect examples - I already mentioned the blow by dunk off a repost, I mentioned the no look cross court pass to an open Bo for 3 (that actually happened 3 or 4 times to different guys), but he also caught the ball at the top of the key in the first half and as the defense was shifting he threw a ball fake to Marv at the block which drew 2 guys plus forced Mock to drop off Tut to go after a post up and as soon as the defenders shifted their weight to Marv he pulled the ball back and kicked it to the wing for a 3 by Bo or Paul (don't remember which one).



CORRECTION:
The blow by dunk wasn't a repost, but rather forcing Mock to try to guard him from 13 feet out and decide if he wanted to bite a shot fake....he did...got embarrassed.

[indymoon]

Marty's plan was absolutely fine last night. They actually did a pretty good job on Tuttle. There was just no way that UE or anybody else was winning in Cedar Falls.

And don't rag on his kid, he's pretty obviously the third best player on the team and he does a really nice job in a bunch of different aspects.

The defense they played in stretches last night was pretty good...if not borderline assault on Tuttle. It wasn't being called so kudos to Evansville for going with it.

The quality of player just started to show through. Mock and DJ are good players, but the rest of that team is not MVC caliber. OVC of Horizon? Sure.

Borderline assault? Come on! How many times did Tuttle use that "chicken wing" to get around the defender? I think you watched a different game than I did.

[uniftw]

Marty's plan was absolutely fine last night. They actually did a pretty good job on Tuttle. There was just no way that UE or anybody else was winning in Cedar Falls.

And don't rag on his kid, he's pretty obviously the third best player on the team and he does a really nice job in a bunch of different aspects.

The defense they played in stretches last night was pretty good...if not borderline assault on Tuttle. It wasn't being called so kudos to Evansville for going with it.

The quality of player just started to show through. Mock and DJ are good players, but the rest of that team is not MVC caliber. OVC of Horizon? Sure.

Borderline assault? Come on! How many times did Tuttle use that "chicken wing" to get around the defender? I think you watched a different game than I did.

Did you watch the game? The refs let it go so it's fine, and decent planning on the Ace's part.

They challenged UNI physically, and may have been allowed to be much more physical than the "rules allow", and it worked...for a bit.

[Cdizzle]

Borderline assault? Come on! How many times did Tuttle use that "chicken wing" to get around the defender? I think you watched a different game than I did.

Did you watch the game? The refs let it go so it's fine, and decent planning on the Ace's part.

They challenged UNI physically, and may have been allowed to be much more physical than the "rules allow", and it worked...for a bit.

I watched the game. There were probably equal numbers of rough play fouls and giant hooks that went uncalled.

[uniftw]

I watched the game. There were probably equal numbers of rough play fouls and giant hooks that went uncalled.

Yep.

Neither was called. I've said, on multiple occasions (including the post you quoted) it wasn't called so kudos to them for doing it.

Doesn't make it less "assaulty"...

[Cdizzle]

I watched the game. There were probably equal numbers of rough play fouls and giant hooks that went uncalled.

Yep.

Neither was called. I've said, on multiple occasions (including the post you quoted) it wasn't called so kudos to them for doing it.

Doesn't make it less "assaulty"...

Right. But it also doesn't make Tuttle less "chicken-wingy."